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  •  Not exactly. (4+ / 0-)

    The folks that go about like Santorum full of Old Testament righteousness and judgement seem more to me like some sort of unevolved ancient Jews (we do share the Old Testament with them after all) that never heard of Christ and still live in a world of a wrathful, vengeful God, fear of anyone not of your tribe, vice-like control of women, and the absolute authority of the family patriarch over everything.  Actually, they're more like sharia or Wahhibist Muslims (with whom we also share the Old Testament) than OT Jews...

    When do I get to vote on your marriage?

    by jarhead5536 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 at 12:00:03 PM PST

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    •  Graham and the right wing have not only (9+ / 0-)

      ignored the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, but they have ignored the teachings of Moses in the Old Testament ...
      There are hundreds of verses in the OT that speak about the poor...how the community is responsible for the welfare of all that are in it .....
      There are many many verses in the OT that emphasize compassion ...
      Jesus was a Jew and much of what he taught was the core of Judaism ... that love of God must be shown by loving neighbor

      Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

      by moonbatlulu on Sat Feb 25, 2012 at 12:05:27 PM PST

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      •  Well said, (2+ / 0-)
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        but the desert monotheism I refer to predates Jesus by thousands of years.  The Abrahamic faiths share an, uh, infortunate past, specifically writings like Leviticus, not to put too fine a point on it.  The Jews and Muslims do a far better job with the plight of the poor than do the modern megachurches of contemporary prosperity Gospel "Christianity"...

        When do I get to vote on your marriage?

        by jarhead5536 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 at 12:10:24 PM PST

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    •  "Old Testament righteousness" is just fine! (0+ / 0-)

      I'm not sure why people keep using this phrase to mean cruelty and vengeance.  

      Here is "Old Testament righteousness" (Isaiah 10:1-3):

      Woe to those who decree iniquitous decrees, and the writers who keep writing oppression,
      to turn aside the needy from justice
      and to rob the poor of my people of their right,
      that widows may be their spoil,
      and that they may make the fatherless their prey!
      What will you do on the day of punishment,
      in the storm which will come from afar?
      To whom will you flee for help,
      and where will you leave your wealth?
      Here is more "Old Testament" judgment (Ezek 16:49):
      Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.
      Yes, the so-called Old Testament (which for us Jews is just the Bible) defines "sodomy" not as homosexual sex but as being prosperous while neglecting the poor. It defines helping the poor as "their right" (i.e. an entitlement), and considers helping the needy to be a duty of justice, not just an act of charity.

      We could do a lot worse than "old testament" righteousness.

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