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  •  contraception remains dual use in nature (0+ / 0-)

    so that women who receive contraception for other reasons still will have the added benefit of birth control.  This problem arose for the Catholic Church over the use of condoms for disease prevention in high HIV incidence areas.  The Church resolved it by banning condoms for disease prevention using the theological fig leaf that the correct thing for the faithful to do would be to pray to God for safety from STDs and accept the consequences as God's Will.  So the AZ legislators expect workers to pray to their employers?

    Seriously, do the legislators expect a state law to trump federal regulations?  This looks like more busy work for the Looney Tunes Brigade

    •  I'm extremely uncomfortable (0+ / 0-)

      with the "Oh, birth control isn't really being used for birth control in this situation" defense. We shouldn't have to do that. It's insulting and weak. It's like saying "Oh, I'm not one of THOSE blacks/Jews/liberals...".

      When will Dems figure out that you lose by playing defense. You either fight offense or you die. It's survival 101.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Tue Mar 20, 2012 at 08:08:34 PM PDT

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      •  agreed, such defensiveness reinforces the (2+ / 0-)
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        wingers' POV that contraception is basically shameful and is something which should not be permitted except in the most extreme of situations.

        There is nothing wrong if it is for pregnancy prevention but wingers care more about ideology than they do biology  

        •  Medicine is medicine (1+ / 0-)
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          Something between people and their providers, period. Which the GOP kept saying during the HCR debate but apparently like their libertarianism and conservatism is very selective and only seems to apply to what they like.

          When are we all going to realize that these debates are not merely about policy and politics, but also and even more so (IMO) about a war between pre and post-enlightenment ways of looking at the world, between small-minded intolerant authoritarian religious bigots who refuse to get out of the 12th century, and NORMAL DECENT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD?

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Tue Mar 20, 2012 at 08:25:58 PM PDT

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