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  •  Think of it as outsourcing your IT (3+ / 0-)

    Because that is what it is, with all off the plusses and minuses.   The plus is that it is cheap.  The minus is that you have no idea in hell what kind of quality you are going to get.   You think that some $.50/day teenager in Vietnam is going to follow your business's best practices?

    There is nothing really new about the concept, it is how computing used to be done.   Most businesses couldn't afford their own IBM/360s so they rented time on them.    Having lived that life, it is way better to have your own machines under your own control, even though it appears to be more expensive.  

    Early in my life I used to be part of support at a University's data center.    We did very careful backups every day, with full backups once a week.   Carefully labelled tapes, etc.    One day we lost a machine, the  machine that our manager's wife had typed her PhD thesis on.

    No problem, let's get yesterday's backup.    Nothing.   It was blank.   The weekly backup was blank.   The monthly backup was blank.   All backups were blank!

    Nobody had ever told us that the heads on the tape drives should be cleaned, or that we should verify the backups.    (We were basically teenagers, do you expect initiative?)

    Our manager, who wore sandals, sported pink toenails for the rest of the year.

    •  Not exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      If you are talking about corporate cloud services, then no.

      It is contracting space and computing power on a larger fleet of server power, but the contents are in no way outsourced.

      No one else is doing backups, has login access, touches content or changes ANYTHING within the data.  They just provide a virtual platform with hyper-redundant power and connectivity all properly climate controlled and physically secure to make sure they never go down.  And yes I mean "never".

      Tier 4 datacenters have 3-4 power company lines over multiple grids, redundant generators, every ISP in the region aggragated for fail-over and compartmentalized security requiring 24-hour manned surveillance and bio-metric validation.  That is what you pay for.  

      If you are using a cloud service from a Tier 4 datacenter (like Google uses) and that datacenter goes "down", your data is the least of your problems.  You should check on the health and safety of your loved ones because something catastrophic just happened to a large portion of the United States.

      If you are talking consumer grade cloud services like gmail, dropbox, iCloud or SkyNet, then again, no.

      They are all in enterprise-grade datacenters as well.  Gmail is not going to lose data because someone $0.50 kid in Vietnam forgot to change a tape.  

      People do not understand what "datacenter" technology means regarding visualization, redundancy, fail-over, platform, connectivity, etc.  Its not some room of physical servers people just rent out to any one that signs up.  

      That's what INTERNAL IT departments have.  Like your University story.  Its a bunch of expensive, rapidly obsolete crap that you have to pay a whole department to run for you.  Or, at a personal level, more pieces of hardware and software you have to buy and manage to do things yourself.

      The cloud has options that you can NEVER achieve because you can't afford it.  

      My datacenter has a fleet of hosts that "servers" migrate from in real-time as people use them based on things like data-demands, the temperature of the processor and how much electricity any one host is pulling.  If anything starts getting overloaded the database server that 2000 of my employees are using every second just "moves" to a new physical machine, reallocates 50% of its traffic to a different ISP, dynamically expands its RAM pool and taps one extra processor to handle the load without anyone doing anything.  All while the users continue to pound on it from all over the globe.

      If you wanted that capability in your own "server room" you would have to spend a FORTUNE on hardware and software and then another FORTUNE every year on high-end engineers to run it for you.  Instead, I get it for a small monthly fee and never have to worry about it because my results are contractually guaranteed in written SLA's.

      Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

      by Wisper on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 07:52:20 AM PDT

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      •  I think we are on a different wavelength (2+ / 0-)
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        Deep Texan, Larsstephens

        I work in a large company with both internal and cloud resources and working environments, and most certainly there is a difference between the quality and security this kind of cloud, and Google Drive or worse.

        But regardless, there are obviously advantages to using various types of cloud services and it's where we, the world, are going.

        What I'd like to fly up the flagpole is something most Americans probably don't give much thought to: in many poor and developing countries, the internet is the wireless network and the PC is a handset, and the empowerment that cloud gives to the users is the real model of the potential of cloud computing.

        Context, people.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 09:46:19 AM PDT

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