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  •  The thing about New Mexico (4+ / 0-)
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    LordMike, MadRuth, Sylv, pademocrat

    It quit being a swing state exactly when we put in paper trail voting, though no one quite knew it in 2008.  We used to have a lot of "phantom votes" in Republican areas, and an unnaturally high level of undervotes in predominantly Hispanic and Native American precincts.  No more.  

    Though Republicans do better in lower turnout midterm elections: Thus Susana Martinez.  But will she be re-elected in 2014?  (Will she even run?)

    "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Eldridge Cleaver, Black Panther Party (quoted by Paul Ryan without proper attribution)

    by Land of Enchantment on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:20:29 AM PDT

    •  Any evidence for this (1+ / 0-)
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      We used to have a lot of "phantom votes" in Republican areas, and an unnaturally high level of undervotes in predominantly Hispanic and Native American precincts.  No more.
      This is a very strong accusation, which needs to be justified with evidence.

      WI-8 independent. Very reluctantly for Obama but support Tammy Baldwin with a bit more enthusiasm. Strongly opposed recall of Gov. Walker.

      by WiscIndy on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 09:33:03 AM PDT

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      •  Oh, for fuck's sake (5+ / 0-)

        It's not an "accusation", it's a description.  We had many precincts that showed more votes on the voting machines than voters who actually voted.  And it was in predominantly Republican areas for the most part.  

        I witnessed the undervotes myself as a poll watcher in one of the on-reservation precincts.  One in seven voters in the 2004 election skipped casting a vote in the top of the ticket race.  At the same time all the early and absentee votes in the same precinct included a choice for President.  I saw the tape that came out of the voting machine at the end of the day with my own eyes.

        I'm not speculating about the source of the problem, not accusing anyone of anything.

        But there was a definite problem.  The state put in paper trail voting, thanks to a small army of activists working at the state legislature.  Now, there's a physical ballot for each vote.  And the phantom votes have vanished (as well they should!) and the undervotes are very low, and pretty much consistent.  As should be expected.

        It's been pretty widely reported over the years.  I've done some diaries on it.  New Mexico has a voting system that can be audited and reviewed in the event of close races.  It's working better than the old system.

        That's not an accusation either.  It's a success story.

        Most recently, I touched on it here.  In more depth here, reviewing the 2006 midterm election.

        "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Eldridge Cleaver, Black Panther Party (quoted by Paul Ryan without proper attribution)

        by Land of Enchantment on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 09:57:11 AM PDT

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