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  •  Yes, he could just go to the slaughter (3+ / 0-)
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    maryabein, CroneWit, corvo

    Jesus did and, after all, every human being is just as strong as Jesus.

    Take just 5 minutes to walk in his shoes. Imagine yourself, believing that you have information that is vital to preserving liberty in the United States. You (a) turn yourself meekly over to the very people you believe are trying to destroy liberty, or (b) keep free long enough to get the information out there.

    You don't have to agree with Snowden to understand that what the United States is doing feels like coercion to him.

    •  Jesus? (8+ / 0-)

      JESUS?

      Seriously?

      Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

      by delphine on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 11:03:30 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, dear (1+ / 0-)
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        Jesus is a perfect example of someone who surrendered Himself to the authorities, knowing they would kill Him.

        ddn seems to think that Snowden should just meekly turn himself in. I think that s/he lacks the empathy to understand what it means to believe in a cause and be determined to see that cause through, not turning oneself in.

        You are free to disagree with my viewpoint, but mocking ddn for demanding that Snowden be willing to go to the slaughter is perfectly legitimate.

      •  My first thought when I read that post was (0+ / 0-)

        jesus fucking christ....MLK is played out.

        Obama 2012 http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

        by jiffypop on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 02:21:07 PM PDT

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        •  So Snowden is like Jesus now (1+ / 0-)
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          But remember everyone, this isn't about Snowden. Not . . . at . . . all.

          But hey, if you hate Snowden you hate Jesus and Freedom and Progressivism. Just letting you know.

          When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

          by PhillyJeff on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 05:54:28 PM PDT

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          •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

            But only in the minds of those incapable of seeing the analogy put forth by the above comment.

            Like you, apparently.




            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

            by DeadHead on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 06:54:55 PM PDT

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          •  I will reply to this gross distortion... (0+ / 0-)

            I will reply to this gross distortion of what I said with what I actually said:

            Take just 5 minutes to walk in his [Snwden's] shoes. Imagine yourself, believing that you have information that is vital to preserving liberty in the United States. You (a) turn yourself meekly over to the very people you believe are trying to destroy liberty, or (b) keep free long enough to get the information out there.

            You don't have to agree with Snowden to understand that what the United States is doing feels like coercion to him.

            There's just a little more nuance to that than the outlandish--trollish-- claim that I have somehow compared Snowden to Jesus.

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