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  •  you missed a full stop (none)
    first of all for evangelicals and fundamentalists. as a fellow evangelical, i don't think. We are stupid, moronic, and believe in the tooth fairy, as many secular liberals like to tar us with. as long as the NYT and liberals continue to sneer at believers, while the GOP at least respects (and yes, manipulates them) the importance of faith, you still won't get anywhere...
    •  I guess it (none)
      is all of the manipulation that completely astounds us.  I am a Presbyterian somewhat on the liberal side and I believe that Jesus was a socialist and a feminist.  But the evangelicals don't seem to agree.

      Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

      by hairspray on Fri Nov 04, 2005 at 11:17:38 AM PST

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    •  I think (none)
      You said,
      "as long as the NYT and liberals continue to sneer at believers"
      Do you see the problem Chumley? You must think Evangelicals and the Conservatives are the only believers out there and we Liberals are not. Do you see the arrogance behind your statement? Has it ever occured to you that we Liberals can believe in God also and can have as much faith as you have?
      •  Sorry (none)
        it would be Ranz instead of Chumley.
        •  Fundamentalists of any hue (none)
          are inherently dangerous.

          The problem I have with the evangelicals I have met is that they beleive they should evangelise. I am not against people of faith.

          Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King all were people of great faith, but they were not intent on converting people to pray in false exhalations of nonsense sounds and receive the spirit and ad nauseam say "Praise Jesus" every time a pastor farts.

          Evangelicals believe in a personal relationship with God and getting to know god through personal revelation, without reasoning. You "think" it hey, god told you!  Sorry but it is just you in your head.  

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