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  •  All rights are NOT human rights! (0+ / 0-)

    Or natural rights.

    For example, it would be nonsensical to say that a Sudanese mob killing a Darfurian violated the Darfurian's HUMAN rights because they didn't allow a jury trial. Jury trials are something a state decides whether it's citizens have a CIVIL right to.

    And regardless, a state (state or nation) can at least attempt to regulate, restrict or deny what you and/or many of us might consider a natural or human right.

    I don't consider marriage a "natural" or "human" right myself, simply because it's a spiritual and/or convenient arrangement between two consenting adults, in the natural state.

    Now, talking about the legal benefits of marriage, i think it's a major issue of CIVIL rights, because of the equal protection clause in the Constitution, just for starters.

    You don't need legal marriage to be a HUMAN or NATURAL right in order to believe US citizens rights are being violated by denying marriage between consenting adults.

    Donk is a poker term for someone who is really bad at "the game". Still, a poor choice in name I guess.

    by DonkSlayer on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 12:41:50 PM PST

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    •  SCOTUS already ruled marriage is a civil right (3+ / 0-)
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      Loving v. Virginia 1967. Seems we've collectively forgotten. Or collectively decided it's ok to deny that civil right to gays.

      Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.

      "You can't hardly separate homosexuals from subversives."--Senator Kenneth Wherry, 1950.

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 03:03:11 PM PST

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