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  •  So, what's up with dailykos front page..... (3+ / 0-)
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    This is Obama's grand bargain, just like it is Obama's wars, Obama's Wall Street bailout, Obama's tax cuts for billionaires, and Obama's  corporate health care bill.   He got elected with a mandate and a majority for change, and the very next day he turned into a Republican.   Blaming tea baggers for the disaster that is Obama's presidency is like blaming the Japanese villagers for the disaster caused by the tsunami.

    I guess expecting Kos and the Dean campaign to return is not what they meant by a "new activism" to go with a new dkos4.  

    With Democrats like Obama, who needs Republicans.

    by dkmich on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 05:36:55 AM PDT

    •  Obama is (6+ / 0-)

      the same person today he was 8 years ago, politically.  I think people heard what they wanted to hear and expected vastly different things, but he really has not changed.  He didn't "turn into a Republican" the next day, he has always been a centrist.  His positions on some things - stem cell research - for example - do matter to real people and are better than the Republican position.  He was and is less regressive than the Republican candidate.  But like all Democrats, really, he is a member of a corporatist party and is not shockingly, a corporatist.  The reason the Democratic party has seemed to change is not because the politicians have changed per se but because the moderating influence of organized labor has been gutted.  

      "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

      by KibbutzAmiad on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 05:42:30 AM PDT

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      •  yanno, a centrist might not bother me. (4+ / 0-)
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        but really, there've been some real straight-up republican moments over the last two years.

        and I hung in there, even still.

        But really, this whole thing with SS, MC and MCD, are, for me, a line in the sand I cannot overcome. I'm having a really tough time believing that any democratic president would willingly open this discussion. It's hard for me and no, I didn't think he was a progressive. Or a socialist, as many on the right accused him of being. But for fuck's sake. I really didn't think THIS would be going on. I gotta be honest.

      •  He decidedly ran as a populist, which (2+ / 0-)
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        he is clearly not.  I never even heard of him until his first appearance at the Democratic National Convention.   The next time he popped up on my radar was as a candidate for president.    Obama the candidate and the campaign always reminded me of Elmer Gantry cleaning up at a revival meeting, which is why I never trusted him in my gut.   dkos FP remained neutral through out the primary.   The dkos peanut gallery bullied, tortured, and punished anyone who didn't support the great Obama because he was absolutely a different Democrat than Clinton, honest and promise.

        Problem for me is that I remember Kos and Dean.   There was a time when I believed we could do something about the "mistaken" wanderings of the Democratic Party.   Now, I don't believe there's anything mistaken about any of it.   The country is in trouble, and I have zero faith that anything will be any better for my children or grandchildren.  I am deeply disappointed that dkos has abandoned its roots.

        With Democrats like Obama, who needs Republicans.

        by dkmich on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 06:46:40 AM PDT

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