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  •  vauban parking (4+ / 0-)

    vauban has 3 car parks, the solar garage by the sonnenschiff, a sweet profilit-clad garage on the northside by the badenova CHP plant, and the third is to the northeast section by the studentensiedlungen. having spent the night in a few 'soviet bloc' housing complexes (as well as some US military installations that were actually worse) the housing in vauban is really nice.

    though my understanding while visiting vauban last year was that one of the bigger critiques has actually been the lack of economic diversity (er, outside the students).

    rieselfeld is also great, is more economically diverse - and the maria magdalena church is one of the best concrete buildings i've ever seen. one of the downsides to rieselfeld (at least for me) is that it lacks the architectural diversity of vauban.

    much of the housing in both has been built to niedrigenergie (low energy) or passivhaus (passive house, which uses significantly less energy than a niedrigenergiehaus). the great thing about this is that it's significant energy and CO2 reductions before adding PV or solar hot water - the addition thereof only making those buildings significantly greener.

    all of freiburg, though, provides an excellent model for moving towards a post-carbon city. i really miss living there, thanks for the excellent tour!

    •  and the old city is very charming, too (2+ / 0-)
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      For the others: do an image search on "Freiburg" to see what i mean.

      Ack! I can positively smell it now! Must go back!

      All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

      by subtropolis on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 05:33:46 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks for the info, holzbox (2+ / 0-)
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      It did seem like there there wasn't a whole lot of economic activity like retail and restaurants in Vauban, other than Der Süden and a few small stores along Vaubanallee. Rieselfeld definitely had more, there was even a Chinese restaurant. I figure with only a 15 minute tram right downtown most folks probably work outside Vauban, and considering that they don't have to drive is probably not such a big problem.

      What made you move away from Freiburg? Are you still in Germany?

      •  economic activity (4+ / 0-)

        vauban has a fair share of small shops - and there are offices located in the sonnenschiff - but most of the folks i met or knew in vauban were either students attending the uni, or working downtown. it's actually faster to bike downtown than take tram - but the tram is uber convenient for getting around, especially with a pass.

        rieselfeld also has a more ethnically diverse population. when we lived in freiburg, i think there was one chinese restaurant that was tolerable, but it wasn't cheap.

        i took a year off from uni to work for a progressive/green architecture firm. had an offer once i finished school, but my my wife (american, but we met in freiburg) wanted to attend grad school.

        we live in seattle now, and while we'd hoped to move back at some point - the longer we've been here - the less likely that is. seattle's fine, but it's definitely not freiburg (or berlin, copenhagen, amsterdam, or basel...).

        did you have any ganter?

        •  Yes, I did (3+ / 0-)

          though only one glass in the early evening because I had to get back to Stuttgart (and Dinkelacker ;-)

          Rieselfeld has been around much longer and is definitely a bit more working class, so that may explain the somewhat different vibe.

          Seattle is great. I think the US is getting a bit too much of a bad wrap these days. There are a lot of great places with some really creative people doing things you just don't see in Europe (Burning Man?)

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