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  •  pretty much agree... (2+ / 0-)
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    the system is just broken...all key progressive constituencies have been drastically undermined (biggest example being labor) and no major National Democrats seem to be willing to step into the fray.

    Democrats are simply way too cautious.  At least that is the favorable reading.

    "But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower." - President Obama, 12-07-2010

    by justmy2 on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 09:13:03 AM PDT

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    •  The reason I vote for dems (1+ / 0-)
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      is because I believe that progressives make up somewhere around 20% of the electorate.  With those numbers, no progressive 3rd party can win, only hand the election to republicans.

      So...as I see it, America just sucks.  Always has, likely will for the foreseeable future.  Whatever happens today (default or deal), at best we are heading into 1937.  And we are not alone, Europe is making the exact same mistake (austerity).

      The only question that remains is just how fucked we are gonna be?  That remains to be seen.

      As far as the election in November, for all I know Obama is actually playing a winning strategy--if true, that would suck too.  Playing a losing strategy would suck even more...but it don't make this any less sucky.

      We are gonna have a lost decade at least.  Long term unemployment is going to be the norm.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 09:24:20 AM PDT

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      •  Why can't they win? (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't get your argument.  I think it makes sense on a national level but on a local level?  Why couldn't a 3rd party win?  Sanders has done it term after term.  

        "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

        by noofsh on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 10:17:37 AM PDT

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        •  I wasn't talking about local (0+ / 0-)

          I was talking national.  More-so, we need 51 Sanders winning locally to get single payer--that just ain't gonna happen any time soon.

          "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

          by Empty Vessel on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 10:21:11 AM PDT

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