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  •  When? (6+ / 0-)

    When will the so-called "Progressive" community (us) take some responsibility in this debacle?  All I hear is the same old "Alas, woe is me!".  Face it, the tea party kicked our ass in 2010 and is continuing the beatdown.  Unless this community starts taking some real action (like the teabaggers have done) instead of the chronic boo-hooing I see here, I don't expect the results to change.  I said this in 2010 and am saying it again, the tea party is kicking our ass and all we do is bitch and moan.  The progressive community has to do a much better job in communicating it's message to the public or else be satisfied with a teabagger president, congress and supreme court.  You get the government you deserve.  

    "Children lack morality, but they also lack fake morality." Mignon McLaughlin

    by djbender on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 10:32:59 AM PDT

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    •  I agree (6+ / 0-)

      in part, but you have to remember the money is on the other side.  I'm part of a group (The New New Deal) and we've been working hard to "train the trainers", hold local forums, etc.  We brought John Conyers to Chicago to talk about his deficit neutral jobs bill.  

      What do you envision as effective actions?

      "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

      by KibbutzAmiad on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 10:40:55 AM PDT

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      •  I would love to see (1+ / 0-)
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        a larger more visionary presence in all forms of media.  We either destroy the other side or we match them.  There is no one on our side comparable to Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Roger Ailes, Grover Norquist, etc.  Don't be fooled, collectively we have more than enough money to at least match their presence.  The "tea party" is more of a media phenomenon than anything else.  I think the blame needs to be shared amongst everyone in Democratic politics.  If we defeat the "tea party" there will be no need to compromise with them.  That's why I say that we (the collective we, the American people) get the government we deserve.  

        "Children lack morality, but they also lack fake morality." Mignon McLaughlin

        by djbender on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 11:13:17 AM PDT

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    •  I take great exception (3+ / 0-)

      to your last sentence, and to the message of your entire comment.

      For almost a decade, I have walked, called, given, wrote, blogged, talked, done lit drops, served on committees, worked through the party, worked outside the party -- ALL to elect progressive Democrats. I took vacation to campaign in other states. I sat in my basement and made long-distance calls at my own expense to touch undecided voters.

      Whenever someone, somewhere, said they were "building an organization" to elect more and better Dems, I was there.

      And YOU are telling ME that this is the government I deserve? And that my children deserve?

      No. This is not what I have worked for, and given money for, and tried to organize for. I deserve a government of honorable ideals and functional processes, staffed and led by people with ideals, competence, and passion. THAT is the government I deserve.

      Bruce in Louisville
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      by bmaples on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 10:42:06 AM PDT

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    •  Yes and the Teabaggers want us to get (1+ / 0-)
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      discouraged, stay home and not vote, or refuse to vote for President Obama. They want to see us get frustrated, discouraged, and give up .

    •  I find this comment annoying, but rec'd (1+ / 0-)
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      because I can't really disagree.

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