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View Diary: “Why Voters Tune Out Democrats,” by Pollster Stanley Greenberg in Sunday’s NYT (213 comments)

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  •  I don't understand your point at all (2+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson, prfb

    People don't like government so they don't like Democrats since Democrats feel government can offer solution to collective problems. Well, that's obvious isn't it? Isn't that what the right has been saying for generations since FDR?

    For many of the people that distrust the Democratic Party the problem is a moral one. Democrats don't stand for what they believe--they give in whenever they are opposed, in short they are perceived as wimps and as such not to be trusted regardless of the rhetoric that comes out of them. The great mass of stunningly uneducated Americans have no intellectual grasp of what is going on at all--they simply lack the intellectual ability to grasp anything more complicated than baseball--and they resent people that do seem to understand complex systems. All this is a result of a poorly run and poorly structured public education system.

    All Republicans have to do is offer simple answers to complex questions. The economy goes bad cut taxes and cut regulations. The economy does well when then it's a good time to cut taxes and go to war. That's the extent of Republican policies. Very simple--if you're for freedom vote Republican, if you're for government intervention in your life where you'll just stand in line for stuff then vote Democrat.

    Because it is so simple and so consistent anybody can understand it--they can make up all kinds of fantasies, make up statistics and say the most absurd lies and it doesn't matter. The mainstream media is unable and unwilling to expose lies and corruption so why not lie all the time? You may get caught having sex with the wrong person but your lies about political issues will never be challenged.

    Progressives on the other hand look too much like they've read books and they've thought and researched the issues. FAIL!

    There are only two things we can do: 1) is to create alternative structures and institutions based on reason that nurture those of us who are interested in reason and science; 2) is to rethink education from one end to the other starting with ourselves--the fact is we have no consistent and understandable intellectual framework that we can articulate even to ourselves that isn't just a bunch of platitudes like "help the poor" or "it's not fair." We need to go a little deeper and explain why fairness and helping the poor are, to be crude, of practical value.

    •  Does this describe the American public? (0+ / 0-)

      "they simply lack the intellectual ability to grasp anything more complicated than baseball-"

      Or, is displaying such an attitude why the American working class has given up on the Democratic Party and its elite leadership? It's the difference between Reagan, who spoke at us, and Carter, who spoke down to us.

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