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  •  He's the man with whom the buck stops... (18+ / 0-)

    ...he is the leader of the Party, and he has chosen to lead it off a cliff.  It is, therefore, his fault for negotiating with terrorist in the first place and for validating their brand of economic policy, which has been proved false over, and over and over again...

    •  He's not a dictator (4+ / 0-)
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      dv01, txdemfem, True North, arpear

      or otherwise he would have arrested those folks. As bad as it is, elections have consequences. Enough of the folks gave powers to the terrorists, knowingly or unknowingly, and that's what they chose to do.

      I very much understand that their brand of "trickle down economics" is complete bullshit, but for some reason the GOP/Teabaggers were able to make some poor folks to believe that they are in the same league as the billionaires. If enough Democrats are able to tell the truth and win in the next election, then things can turn around. Again, elections have consequences.

      •  Nor was George W. Bush... (3+ / 0-)
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        SuperMom, stewarjt, ferg

        ...but he got most of what he wanted!  Why?  BECAUSE HE FUCKING ASKED FOR IT!  You can't win if you don't even try, and Barack Obama didn't ever try for a big enough stimulus, for allowing the Bush Tax Cuts to expire, for EFCA, for the Public Option, ETC., ETC., ETC.  While GOPosaurs are busy "creating reality", DC Democrats spend all of their time rationalizing how we can do nothing about it.  UNACCEPTABLE!

        •  I think another challenge for Obama (0+ / 0-)

          is to fight the tendency to do nothing. Obama wants a lot of things done, yet it is very easy for the GOP and the Blue Dogs to oppose his initiatives because it requires nothing on their part. Obama wants health care done, he needs to get votes. GOP doesn't have do anything but to say and vote no to keep what they have.

          Compare it to a construction project (public or private), project sponsor have all the burden to plan, inform, and to re-evaluate the plan after public input, project opponents can just say and vote no (they don't necessarily have to study the project in detail and build a case for opposition). The difference between this and DC is that project sponsor tend to have lots of money.

          I don't think Obama would sacrifice Social Security and Medicare if GOP doesn't hold something else important for hostage.

      •  Seems to me (2+ / 0-)
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        Ken in MN, Digdin

        That just a couple years ago we had both houses and the presidency.  It appears to me that its not so much how many you elect , but who you elect.  It appears we need to rethink who qualifies as a democrat.

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