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  •  the analysis of indies is dead wrong. (2+ / 0-)
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    wbgonne, msmacgyver

    I was one from the age of 18 all the way through THROUGH the 2008 election. I didn't switch to Dem until late 2009.

    I was an indie who voted from BOTH parties in those 20-something years I was an indie. I can tell you that this fiasco would have completely turned me off to both parties. I would have said "politics really sucks balls" and it would have (in my mind) justified why I chose to keep my distance from it.

    Which I did.

    I wish I could be as detached about politics as I was at the time.

    Bottom line: my vote basically went to whomever I felt was getting something decent accomplished. I can say I was a left leaning indie. yes. But I also voted for republicans before. I would compare the two candidates (I never voted in mid terms) and choose the one I felt was right for the job AT THAT TIME. Obama won indies in 2008 because of that type comparison. And he seemed the right person for the job AT THAT TIME.  This time out, his accomplishments won't help him - especially since we stand to be in worse economic position than we are today. And IF the GOP puts up someone who seems like a better more capable actor for THE TIME, he's toast.

    I am going to make a prediction: (mark it) you won't see any movement in polling TOWARD Obama after this debacle on the part of indies. Mark it. They will not see this as a positive accomplishment. The numbers will stay the same or tick down slightly (due to anger at "all government"). Watch.

    •  Listening to the political advisors instead (6+ / 0-)

      of policy advisors was a terrible mistake on the President's part.
      Plouffe is good at organizing campaigns, but was never meant to be a policy expert.  As someone who has been in his corner more steadfastly than many, I'm crushed.  I remember him saying that he'd rather be a one-term President and do the right thing.  That, to me, was the promise that he really broke.  

      Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

      by SottoVoce on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 05:11:28 AM PDT

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    •  Agree completely and yet another (1+ / 0-)
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      "consensus" opinion from the White House.

      May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

      by msmacgyver on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 06:27:56 AM PDT

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