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  •  How's it working out for you? (1+ / 0-)
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    I think the platform is irrelevant and if you took a liberal platform and combined it with people who ID as liberal and very liberal, it would actually mirror your beliefs in a more specific way rather than in general terms.  

    With numbers like these in this poll, only a few things can happen.  1.  Liberals eventually take over the democratic party. 2. Liberals leave the democratic party.  3. Moderates work to bring the GOP back to the middle.

    The first one will take too long.
    The second one will give liberals a solid voice and voting block(you could actually be in the same party as Bernie Sanders rather than just the same caucus).
    3. Is going to happen eventually but in the form I mentioned it will be at the expense of the democratic party.

    People like to win more than anything and yes people do like to make a clear choice.  Right now at this point in history the choice people want to make is between getting things done and not getting things done.  

    Liberals weren't involved in that fight in 2010, when they should have been.  Principles can be a painful fight if you are going to lay it all on the line all the time.  If Obama gets a second term, I have no doubt you are going to see some major shifts in how he does business, but if people aren't going to afford him the room to operate that way, he'll never get to do it.

    Break off to get more power, right now the DNC can swallow liberals up because they are in the group, if you break off they have to consider positions.  I don't see this as complicated.

    Who shot ya? Seperate the weak from the ob-solete Hard to creep them Brooklyn streets It's on ____, f**k all that bickering beef I can hear sweat trickling down your cheek

    by mim5677 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 07:23:48 AM PDT

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    •  I think Liberals are going to (0+ / 0-)

      retake the Democratic Party.  We didn't leave the party, somehow the party left us.

      How are we going to do it?  I am going to work my ass off at the state and federal levels (forget the Presidency for now, lost cause).

      If you think education is expensive, wait until you see how much stupid costs

      by Sychotic1 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 07:29:27 AM PDT

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      •  I hear you but... (0+ / 0-)

        If liberals retake the democratic party and it's basically a teabagger version of a democrat you are going to end up losing voters for a longer period of time than you are comfortable with.

        The Presidency is a big deal especially if you are going to give it up because he is not liberal enough.

        Better to leave the party in my opinion.  If America is to sustain itself originality has to be a part of the process.  You have to recognize the harsh realities of that graph.  The likelyhood that liberals will be able to take over the mantle of the democratic party, within X amount of time is a tough road to hoe.

        How long would you be willing to realistically work at it and still have an affect on government policy, or at least the kind that you want to have.  

        American moderates have proved more than willing to ditch "principles" for productivity.  You are taking less of a risk I think by going it alone and there is a bigger payoff in the end.

        Who shot ya? Seperate the weak from the ob-solete Hard to creep them Brooklyn streets It's on ____, f**k all that bickering beef I can hear sweat trickling down your cheek

        by mim5677 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 08:16:50 AM PDT

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        •  I didn't get past teabaggers (0+ / 0-)

          your false equivalence can fuck right off.

          If you think education is expensive, wait until you see how much stupid costs

          by Sychotic1 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 08:21:46 AM PDT

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          •  Your funeral buddy... (0+ / 0-)

            I can imagine they react the same way to things they don't like.  

            That's the whole point, the numbers say the public overall is rejecting your point of view, even if they like the policies, that's an attitude problem.  

            You have to drop the emotional garbage and grow up.

            Who shot ya? Seperate the weak from the ob-solete Hard to creep them Brooklyn streets It's on ____, f**k all that bickering beef I can hear sweat trickling down your cheek

            by mim5677 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 at 10:32:48 AM PDT

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