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  •  We know Republicans are a problem. (9+ / 0-)

    We know they will stop at nothing to see Obama fail.

    We know they will let the country fall to ruins just because it would reflect poorly on Obama.

    We know they are the enemy.

    That goes without saying.

    What we don't know is why he wants to negotiate with them knowing that they will not support anything with a positive outcome, because that would reflect positively on Obama. You should be highly suspicious of any economic policy that garners Republican votes. They're not going to vote for it if it's going to work. That would be good for Obama, and we've already established they don't want anything good for Obama.

    •  But how do we then get anything passed... (4+ / 0-)

      In this Congress?

      You should be highly suspicious of any economic policy that garners Republican votes. They're not going to vote for it if it's going to work. That would be good for Obama, and we've already established they don't want anything good for Obama.

      I get what you're saying, but we still have a budget to pass this fall. How can it pass without any GOP votes? As I've said before, we don't have a European Parliamentary system where the Prime Minister can dissolve Parliament and call for another election. Until January 2013, President Obama will have to find ways to get a budget through the GOP House.

    •  The president has a day job. DKos diarists don't. (2+ / 0-)
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      Lying eyes, jiffypop

      It's all well and good for someone whose connection to politics exists entirely in the realm of ideas and words to put all of their emphasis on ideas and words, but the president actually needs to run the government.  At a certain point, he has to get what he can get within the existing political realities.

      Art is the handmaid of human good.

      by joe from Lowell on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 11:50:36 AM PDT

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    •  He is the President of the whole country (0+ / 0-)

      I think he takes this very seriously, and as a result, he believes it is appropriate to listen and negotiate.

      I have heard it said that President Obama plays the long game.  For many of us, this is very frustrating (no instant gratification).  But he comes across as more mature, more sane, more reasonable, etc.

      The longer he does this, the crazier the Republicans show themselves to be.

      He has said over and over again, he negotiates in good faith.  I think he is learning that their true desire is to see the country fail (so he does not get elected again), so he is drawing bright lines around the things that are critical to the countries survival.

      As long as the ball is moving forward, it is a gain.  Not a win, but a gain.  It is a long slow move forward, but usually we are moving forward.  Even if it feels like only inches at a time.

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