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  •  Good point. (2+ / 0-)
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    S.A.W. 2011 STOP ALL WARS "The Global War on Terror is a fabrication to justify imperialism."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Sun Aug 07, 2011 at 11:08:13 PM PDT

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    •  Might you be over-analyzing this? (7+ / 0-)

      No offense intended but conditions for a massive protest like this are never going to be perfect. And no matter what, not everyone involved is going to agree on what issue is more important. They are all important but I think to make the choice easier, perhaps, they can be separated into two main categories.

      One is antiwar/anti-imperialism and the other is pro-economic/social justice. The fight against both wars of aggression and inequality is imperative for a functioning democracy.

      Subsequently, if you believe passionately in one or both of those issues, and you also believe urgency is indeed necessary -- then you should welcome such a semi-organized protest with open support.

      And as far as the guest list is concerned: everyone needs to come together in these oppressive times. I don't think anyone who cares deeply for the welfare of this country and its citizenry should be left out of this protest.

      Sure, the Republicans will try to make a big deal about some of the participants. But so what. They'd try to manipulate the media and marginalize the importance of this protest no matter who attended.

      Just sayin'

      "Corporations have neither bodies to kick nor souls to damn." -- Andrew Jackson, 7th President of the United States

      by markthshark on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 02:28:47 AM PDT

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      •  Were it not for high profile attendees (3+ / 0-)

        the media would completely ignore it and most people would never know it happened. High profile folk have "people" who will get it into the news. It's not how it should be, but it is what it is given the virtual media blackout of anything that's not Tea Party politics.

      •  this rally is to broad to be successful (1+ / 0-)
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        I was ready to sign up, Hubby said OK we'll go but then we read the list of participating orgs and changed our minds...   to may times, in the recent past, we have been burned by these overly broad events and ended up lending our bodies and voices to issues we do not agree with and we felt HIJACKED and used.  

        We have come to call these 'everything' demonstrations the 'free free palestine' rallies because sooner or later someone gets hold of the mic and the cameras and starts chanting FREE FREE PALESTINE and starts spewing invectives I DONT AGREE WITH and there are many others like me... and we get turned off and tuned out.

        these everything rallies are like if you went to WI to support union rights and found out you were default supporting the right to kill puppies too.

        WI has, so far, been successful because the demonstrations, protests and rallies were FOCUSED on an issue everyone agreed on....   but when I saw the list of participating groups for this upcoming march on DC I closed the website.  

        I cant push this rally to my friends ...   they wouldnt be interested in going to an EVERYTHING demonstration.... they WOULD have been persuadable IF this was focused on a few issues but this is not going to be that kind of event...sadly.

        "Orwell was an optimist"

        by KnotIookin on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 06:48:39 AM PDT

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        •  Ok, I don't get it. I don't see a... (1+ / 0-)
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          single issue (or demand) listed that does not reflect everyday core liberal policies.

          to may times, in the recent past, we have been burned by these overly broad events and ended up lending our bodies and voices to issues we do not agree with and we felt HIJACKED and used.

          As for the people expected to attend; read ChemBob's comment directly above yours.

          Were it not for high profile attendees (3+ / 0-)

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          the media would completely ignore it and most people would never know it happened. High profile folk have "people" who will get it into the news. It's not how it should be, but it is what it is given the virtual media blackout of anything that's not Tea Party politics.

          by ChemBob on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 07:54:03 AM EDT

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          Issues listed:

          Corporatism
          Wars and Militarism
          Human Rights
          Worker Rights
          Government
          Elections
          Criminal justice
          Healthcare
          Education
          Housing
          Environment
          Finance and the economy
          Media
          Food and water
          Transportation

          Demands listed:

          Tax the rich and corporations
          End the wars, bring the troops home, cut military spending
          Protect the social safety net, strengthen Social Security and improved Medicare for all
          End corporate welfare for oil companies and other big business interests
          Transition to a clean energy economy, reverse environmental degradation
          Protect worker rights including collective bargaining, create jobs and raise wages
          Get money out of politics

          Listen, I'm not singling you out but it seems Americans can always find a reason to stay home. And, this is why the other side is winning this struggle for the very heart of this country right now.

          I don't really like this quote but it kinda fits in this particular situation:

          Don't allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

          "Corporations have neither bodies to kick nor souls to damn." -- Andrew Jackson, 7th President of the United States

          by markthshark on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 11:25:45 AM PDT

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      •  Most definitely. Over analysis over. (0+ / 0-)

        After reading the comments and sleeping on it, I can see the light.  
        Actually the dark.
        On to the next thing.

        S.A.W. 2011 STOP ALL WARS "The Global War on Terror is a fabrication to justify imperialism."

        by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 09:24:14 AM PDT

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