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  •  Too abstract. (1+ / 0-)
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    BigAlinWashSt

    "End corporate personhood" only has meaning for activists. If I'm in Amarillo or Topeka or Louisville, I don't give a shit about "corporate personhood." I give a shit about not having a job, or about being the only person in my family who does have a job and that job not being secure or sufficient.

    Protest unemployment. Put blue-collar folks out in front, wave as many American flags as you can get your hands on, and ask why Wall Street is more interested in profits than in giving American workers an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. Populism, not ideology, is the winning message.

    •  They can change the legalese for the protest (1+ / 0-)
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      - no need to use the word "personhood". Something like "End corporate [or Wall Street] stickup".

      No reason there shouldn't be protests addressing unemployment...I just disagree it's sufficient and think that there needs to be one with a simple message that both educates and addresses the root causes of America's problems.

      "It depends what the meaning of 'is', is"
      Platform of the "New" Neoliberal Democratic Party
      Speaking out of one side of their mouth for the little guy, their nominal constituency, and the other for the plutocracy, their real constituency.

      by Sanctimonious on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 09:34:10 AM PDT

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      •  An anti-corporate campaign... (0+ / 0-)

        ...is still going to fall flat with the majority of Americans because they've been conditioned since the very first moments of their lives to identify with corporations, through their logos, slogans, and "personalities" on television.

        People aren't pissed at the corporations right now. So attacking them won't get the people on your side.

        That's why I think this ANSWER march in DC is going to fail. People are pissed at Washington, but Washington isn't what they're pissed off about. They're not pissed off about corporate influence or about the debt or about the wars or about foreign policy or even about taxes, and the muddled messaging of this ANSWER march is all about those things.

        No, what ordinary Americans are pissed off about is that there aren't jobs. They can't make their mortgages or put gas in their cars or get health care because there aren't jobs. They're working shittier hours for less pay while everything costs more.

        And they're looking for someone to blame. The Republicans want them to blame government, taxes, and President Obama;  the debt ceiling debacle plays into this even though people were pissed at Republicans in DC too, as the debt ceiling debacle was an implicit argument that government can't work.

        If we don't tell the people who they should be pissed at because they don't have jobs, they're going to direct their anger where they're told. And ANSWER crapping around on Freedom Plaza about Libya and Afghanistan and Palestine and "corporate personhood" and capitalism and the whales and God-knows-what-else is going to look to them like just another pile of bullshit in Washington, with ridiculous-looking hippies in dreadlocks carrying dumb signs and drumming instead of boring-looking guys in suits carrying briefcases and arguing on TV.

        No, we need an AMERICAN JOBS MARCH. Just about jobs. Nothing else. No corporate personhood, no anti-war, no climate change, and sure as shit no anti-capitalist scatterbrains like ANSWER to muck everything up with their self-indulgent bullshit.

        The people leading the march and the people speaking at the march need to be people that an ordinary person in Springfield or Camden or Denver can look at and say "that person is just like me." American flags need to outnumber protest signs.

        The focus needs to be directing the people's anger at Wall Street, who are cutting jobs left and right to ship them overseas and make themselves richer, and at their lack of patriotism and willingness to sell America down the river in order to make a buck.

        That's what would put thousands into the streets in cities across America. Americans are already "educated" about the real problem: they know that they don't have jobs, and they see the degradation that's causing in their own lives and in their communities. We just need to get them pissed off at the right people—and starting with an anti-corporate message with the assumption that the people are on board with it isn't going to do that.

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