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  •  Working on improving the plan ... (5+ / 0-)

    ... is not counting chickens.

    Counting chickens before they're hatched would be doing something that does not make sense until it is certain to go ahead.

    What I am talking about here is the kind of thing where waiting until it is certain to go ahead is probably too late. Unless it is guaranteed to not go ahead, it would be foolish to wait until there is the political impetus to get moving.

    Criticize whether it is a sensible plan, but I don't buy the argument that its foolish to plan. That is the approach that sees progressives repeatedly rolled by radical reactionaries with the willingness to play the long game.

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    by BruceMcF on Sun Aug 07, 2011 at 07:33:10 PM PDT

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    •  Southeast High Speed Rail timeline. (5+ / 0-)

      I happened to have the page for the Southeast High Speed Rail Corridor. Among the things they have are a timeline on how long it takes to get through the studies and design phases--10 years before they can put the shovel down.  We can probably do something to speed up the process, but there you have it.

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      by Judge Moonbox on Sun Aug 07, 2011 at 07:51:14 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, getting through preliminary planning ... (3+ / 0-)
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        ... and environmental assessment takes time. We had a pair of Republican governors over 16 years who fobbed off advocates for the Ohio Hub by cycling through planning and putting in requests to Congress for funding environmental assessments.

        That's why they could have started operations by late 2012 if the 3C Quickstart had been allowed to go ahead. Indeed, that was one reason why it was so urgent to make sure that the Quickstart did not go ahead.

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        by BruceMcF on Sun Aug 07, 2011 at 08:10:05 PM PDT

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    •  God knows.... (3+ / 0-)
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      ....the wingnuts are always planning in their think tanks, just waiting for the day when the political environment gives them a chance to put their plans into action.

      Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

      by Bush Bites on Sun Aug 07, 2011 at 07:56:49 PM PDT

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      •  The progressive blogosphere ... (3+ / 0-)
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        ... can't play all of the roles that the radical reactionary propaganda mills like Heritage, Cato and Reason do, but it has to play some of them if we are to overcome the cash funding disadvantage without being dependent upon sources of funds that corporoDems can choke off.

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        by BruceMcF on Mon Aug 08, 2011 at 01:29:56 AM PDT

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