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  •  She basically said: Republicans will block a jobs (8+ / 0-)

    bill. I see that as informing the electorate, which will result in voting out Republicans come 2012. Republicans have been blocking bills that put money in the pockets of working people since Obama took office. Interesting, how many here don't see that. Many here loath admitting that Republicans have been obstructionists.... It's more a case of Obama or Democrats not acting. So I guess that's why we have outrage over McCaskill statement.... I see it as a pointing finger at Republicans and good for 2012 and the election of more Democrats, some here see it as Democrats not wanting to act.... Strange indeed....

    •  So what? Then let the GOP block it (14+ / 0-)

      What's with this pre-surrender garbage from Democrats?

      Put a jobs bill out on the floor, let the Republicans filibuster it and shine a great, big spotlight at the fact that Republicans are blocking a bill on jobs.  Jobs - an issue that wide majorities of Americans believe is more important to address than deficits.

      Why surrender to them before the fight?  I can respect and rally behind somebody who fights for me but loses.  I can't do so for a party that fails to fight.

      The level of incompetence from the Democratic Party leadership is so severe, it borders on intentional.  

      •  Right on!. Make the GOP vote on it, then hang (2+ / 0-)
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        them with it.  I guess the Dems are too stupid.

        McCaskill is telling starving people.....wait a little longer.  My fingernail polish isn't dry yet.  I will get back to you to due time - maybe after the year or after I am re-elected.  We need to cut, cut, cut.  That is more important than jobs.  

        McCaskill has to go!"

      •  This is about hypnotizing the public (4+ / 0-)

        into worrying about the deficit instead of jobs.

        I'm sure it seems like a good idea when you're inside the bubble.

        Understatement of the week: "The White House doesn't create jobs." -- Jay Carney

        by just some lurker guy on Tue Aug 09, 2011 at 01:31:05 PM PDT

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      •  Exactamundo. (4+ / 0-)

        The voting public doesn't get subtle hints. When she insinuates some shit like "the present environment isn't conducive to a jobs bill," the average Joe looks at that and thinks, why the fuck not?

        There is, of course, a political risk in putting a jobs bill out there to shoot down. I understand that the public likes winners, and that proposing a jobs bill in a Republican Congress doesn't set the Dems up for a win.

        But the public also likes strong leaders, who can be shown to have gone the extra mile on their behalf, even if they're wrong.

        The important thing is that the Dems have lost the initiative. The narrative has been driven by the Republicans since about halfway through the previous term: for some reason, they were able to define the Affordable Care act better than the Obama administration, even though they pulled the particulars of that narrative out of their asses.

        They then managed to make the economic debate about debts and deficits, when the real debate -- the one that everyone everywhere should be able to see -- should be about how to create jobs.

        So the question is, when and how do the Democrats seize the initiative? Use their lame duck status in the House to present ideas that they won't have to put through the meat grinder of actual negotiations. Take the debate on jobs to the public, and have the public consider precisely why the Republicans are prepared to deep six a bill that would put people back to work.

        Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

        by Dale on Tue Aug 09, 2011 at 01:37:44 PM PDT

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      •  You are assuming words she did not say. At no time (0+ / 0-)

        did she say Dems will not be putting a jobs bill up. Here is the top quote:

        Congress is unlikely to pass a jobs bill this year because of opposition to spending, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) said Monday.

        "unlikely to pass" she did not say democrats will not offer a bill. She does not speak for all, neither does she have insight into the minds of all Democrats, so it would be difficult for her to know this in advance....

        With the Republicans blocking aid for the unemployed and bent on destroying the nation, is it too much to wish that we save more of our fire for Republicans? They are the villains here...Republicans and their tea critter allies. Rabidly attacking Democrats does nothing for stopping the real destructive enemies come 2012....

      •  ..donning tin foil hat.. (0+ / 0-)
        The level of incompetence from the Democratic Party leadership is so severe, it borders on intentional.  

        That's my feeling too. It's been more and more apparent ever since they sort of accidentally took the House in 2006. Deer in headlights, and no idea how to do their masters' bidding without being caught out.

        How far to the right do the Dems have to move before you stop calling them Dems?

        by Diebold Hacker on Tue Aug 09, 2011 at 02:06:58 PM PDT

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    •  No. She did not. She said "Congress" (1+ / 0-)
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      Pelosi is quoted blaming Republicans.

      McCaskill blames "Congress" just like our President does.

      So does everyone plan to run against the generic "Congress"?

      Is "Congress" really the new Bear in the Woods?  

      What pathetic nonsense.

      We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

      by Into The Woods on Tue Aug 09, 2011 at 01:28:07 PM PDT

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      •  Who in Congress is against spending? We have seen (0+ / 0-)

        poll after poll which shows that a majority of voters are against the Republicans because they only want spending cuts.

        McCaskill did not say Democrats will not post a jobs bill, to chant that she be primaried as some here have done is shortsighted and ridiculous, especially considering that her district is quite conservative. Chances are if you primary McCaskill you will end up with a Republican when the dust is settled.  Attack Republicans and attack Republicans; they give us ample reason to.

        •  I Might Support Primary Challenges But Vote Dem (0+ / 0-)

          in the general.  

          I did not advocate one for her, but assuming the general public understands who is fighting for them and who is not is exactly why we lost in 2010.  

          Assuming that we can keep them convinced or persuade those who are not when the weight of the MSM and GOP messaging (with corporate echo chamber) is constantly hitting them with a different message is insanity.  

          It is not "Congress" who will not pass any spending bill.

          It is Republicans and a small number of Blue Dogs who have elevated fiscal purity above economic recovery.

          If McCaskill is not one of the latter, she ought to make that more clear.

          We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

          by Into The Woods on Tue Aug 09, 2011 at 04:39:32 PM PDT

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    •  I Know --- Let's Shoot the Messenger! (0+ / 0-)

      Diary = Let's all get mad at the at the weatherman for predicting rain.

      CM's simply telling you what the Democrats and Obama plan for a jobs package.  A pile of shit that does little to provide Americans with jobs.  But call to primary her?  Give me a break.  Sen. Kerry is saying the exact same thing.              

    •   she is really saying don't try so she (0+ / 0-)

      Will not have to vote for it or against it, and she can imply to different groups she would have vote how they wanted.

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