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  •  Of course cherry-picking is a must. (3+ / 0-)

    As for the seedier stories, they make it even better because they illustrate human character flaws.

    As for David shtupping his daddy's concubines on the palace roof, I think you mean either Solomon or Absalom, David's sons. David's daddy, Jesse, didn't have a palace roof.

    But you are absoutely right that there quite a few tawdry tales they don't teach the rank and file followers.

    Ds see human suffering and wonder what they can do to relieve it. Rs see human suffering and wonder how they can profit from it.

    by JTinDC on Wed Aug 10, 2011 at 08:09:57 AM PDT

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    •  Whoops, my bad. (3+ / 0-)
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      Yeah, it was Absolom on David's palace roof.

      I could have mentioned "emerods," too, or "he who pisseth against the wall."

      •  Crucial to get an accurate translation (0+ / 0-)

        And practically impossible, too.  Most translators have translated according to their own religious doctrine.

        I'd love to find a translation which consistently translates "Elohim" as "The gods" (which is what it actually means in Hebrew -- it's plural, folks).

        As a historical document, the Bible is very interesting.  My favorite in that regard is the punishment of Cain for being a farmer (because farming is evil, you know) -- his offering was not accepted while Abel's was.  This dates to the long feuds between nomadic herders and farmers who enclosed rangeland -- a major part of human history and prehistory.

        As literature, I'm fond of Jacob wrestling with God.  (It's not an angel.  It's God.  Read the text.)  The morals are quite plainly that. (a) cheaters win and are the favored of God  (hasn't that been the moral of everything Jacob did?), and (b) that God is the biggest cheater of them all.  He can't be beat even if you're a better wrestler, because he'll cheat.  I rather like it -- if you think of God as the natural world, it makes you think.

        Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

        by neroden on Wed Aug 10, 2011 at 05:45:13 PM PDT

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        •  except Elohim was understood in singular (0+ / 0-)

          and thus, for the Jews, never carried the meaning of the Gods plural.  

          "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

          by teacherken on Wed Aug 10, 2011 at 08:32:06 PM PDT

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