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  •  But you can't just give people work.... (5+ / 0-)
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    Sychotic1, Jim J, erush1345, FinchJ, fritzi56

    ...if they're not accustomed to it.  Work isn't some innate desire we have, it's a stylized activity that we're socialized into, and parents socialize us more than anyone.  If your parents don't work then it's much harder for you to just pick up and follow the petty and grand discipline that wage labor requires.  This is what Moynihan grasped in his grandiloquent and unnecessarily racialized way 45 years ago for the US, and it's a much greater concern in the UK because more people live without working, and for longer, than in the US because here they'd starve and die.

    This is the key tension in the nanny-state debate in the UK, under both Labour and Conservatives: while it has a lot of funny aspects the serious core is that capitalism plus welfare statism has produced some deep social pathologies and you can't just press a button called "employment," not that Cameron has any interest in that button anyway.  People who get up in arms at the idea of longstanding deprivation and marginalization producing social pathology don't understand how powerful deprivation and marginalization really are.  They're not just a bout of rainy days that can be ended with some sunny ones.

    I'll Rochambeau you for it.

    by Rich in PA on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 06:29:42 AM PDT

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