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  •  You probably understand what you are trying (1+ / 0-)
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    fizziks

    to say better than me, and it would not be the first time I admitted to being dense. But I just don't get it.

    Are you and Clarke saying that the US should or does automatically arrest all "terrorists", because they wereon a (pre-9-11) watch list?

    I don't see what they might be arrested for. As far as I can tell no one who could have arrested them knew of the 9-11 plot.

    And I am baffled as to the point of these two rooming with a FBI informant (unless the FBI has a lot of informants, and in having such, they hardly learn anything).

    Yes, this news supports the theory that the CIA and the FBI did not (who knows if they do now) work well together.

    H'mm. I'm not terribly into this, anymore.

    by Knarfc on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 04:19:24 PM PDT

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    •  let me try (15+ / 0-)

      1.  they were on a watch list, which means they should NOT have been issued visas to enter the country

      2.  CIA has NO jurisdiction in US - within borders responsibility for counter-terrorism lies with FBI

      3.  CIA knew they had entered country, but did not inform FBI

      4.  they were easily accessible, since it turns out they were living with an FBI informant, but FBI did not know CIA had tracked them from a terrorism conference in Malaysia

      5.  In the aftermath of 9-11, CIA never disclosed what relationship they had had if any with these two, that is, had they in fact tried to recruit them

      6.  It is clear numerous people in CIA knew they were in the US. Clarke argues it is at best improbably and almost inconceivable that such information was not made available to him has person nationally responsible for counterrorism policy

      7. he goes further and suggests this could only be with knowledge and acquiescence of George Tenet as Director of Central Intelligence -  Tenet and Cofer Black etc have denied knowing the two were in the country.  If Black did not know, then he was incompetent and the counterterrorism center he was running for the CIA was worthless

      clear enough now?

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      by teacherken on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 04:28:00 PM PDT

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      •  Only issued a visa to be surveilled............... (1+ / 0-)
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        They were let in to be watched here, then turned.

        Obviously, that effort was half-baked.

        But if you think that the CIA lacked resources in the U.S. to snatch a pair of amateur terrorists, I suggest a review of such as the Cuban-in-Miami and Iran-Contra histories.

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        by vets74 on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 06:54:25 PM PDT

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        •  doesn't matter what they thought they were doing (6+ / 0-)
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          legally both FBI and Richard Clarke should have been informed.

          But then, we know the CIA violates laws both in this country and elsewhere, often with impunity.

          But now we are on the edge of verboten territory, for example, Mena Arkansas.

          Some time the edges can be seen -  Iran Contra showed us some of it, but only the edges.

          "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

          by teacherken on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 06:59:10 PM PDT

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      •  hummm by law CIA has no jurisdiction in US (0+ / 0-)

        do you think  CIA has had operations in US ever, sometimes, never....... instant poll!

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        by anyname on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 10:17:15 PM PDT

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