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  •  When you have evidence (0+ / 0-)

    as to the why, let me know.
    Until then...

    We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

    by raptavio on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 10:26:33 AM PDT

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    •  I am an Eisenhower pacifist. (0+ / 0-)

      I believe some parts of our government and our clandestine services work for the industry of war.

      •  I don't care what you can believe. (0+ / 0-)

        Show me what you can prove.

        We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

        by raptavio on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 10:34:39 AM PDT

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        •  I can tell who someone works for (0+ / 0-)

          by seeing who benefits from their work.

          The Incompetence Theory, that our intelligence leadership was so stupid that the Military Industrial Complex had a field day in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't hold up for me as well as the theory that this particular area of our intelligence services works for the benefit of those contractors. I just think it's more likely that they're venal than that they're stupid in the Stupid or Venal argument.

          Is that proof? No, but none of us here is in a position to prove what we believe about these issues. I speculate that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was in North Carolina going to a Baptist college because he was training at our Jihadist terrorist training camps near there. I think it's more likely that he graduated from terrorist training and then went into the Jihad than that he went from Muslim radicalization to Baptist conversion and then went into the Jihad. That's just speculation on my part. Maybe when he gets into a courtroom we'll see more evidence about that.

          The lawsuit by 9/11 victims families against Saudi government officials ended with the Saudis saying their support of Al Qaeda was part of their work as government officials and therefore they can't be sued. Do you think that means they were supporting Al Qaeda, or do you think it's a legal grey area and therefore unproven?

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