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  •  Denise - awesome diary. (1+ / 0-)
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    Denise Oliver Velez

    Language is important. You are correct that we don't want to fall into the trap of the right.

    An observation on the definition of "worker"

     "everyone who earns a wage or a salary and does not derive wealth from controlling the labor of others."

    Does that make the assistant manager at Wendy's not a worker?  Is that something we really want to do?

    What is the definition of the "other class" other than worker? I would suggest that it not be "capitalist" as that will be a disaster from a perception standpoint.

    Just a suggestion. Curious what you think:
    Worker -  "everyone for whom a majority of their wealth comes from  a wage or a salary.

    Investor - "everyone for whom a majority of their wealth comes from interest, dividends, or the appreciation in value of assets.

    of course that makes those with houses and large 401Ks more likely to be considered investors (even if they earn a salary).

    ...sorry I never learned a ton about Marx..... just that he's evil. I went to Levittown, NY schools.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 09:56:20 AM PDT

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    •  I see 4 social classes (4+ / 0-)

      1. The ownership class: lives off of what they own (stocks, bonds, real estate) does not need to work to survive.

      2. The working class: must work in order to survive

      3. The managerial class: these are the people hired by the ownership class to run the business. Those high up in the chain (CEO's, board of directors) have a great deal of power and overlap with the ownership class in terms of being able to live off wealth. However, there are many in middle or low management positions such as a wendy's assistant manager who works hard and must work in order to survive despite having some power over others.

      4. The underclass: these are the unemployed. They provide a surplus pool of workers in case some employees go on strike or quit their jobs in disgust. If replacement workers are easily found, wages will be very low as you see today. This is why jobs are not the priority right now.

      "Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of overcoming it" Helen Keller

      by Johnnythebandit on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 12:12:07 PM PDT

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