Skip to main content

View Diary: A question of class (248 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  I think the term "consumers" (11+ / 0-)

    Has had a big part in this.

    The American people are never labelled citizens.  Just consumers.  Thus they don't think of themselves as either politically necessary nor as workers.  It's all about what you can buy and where you place yourself on that spectrum.

    Which also re-enforces the individualism.

    As long as I can buy the car I want, the house I want, the clothes I want, the the toys I want, what difference does it make what "class" I am in, whether or not I'm in a union, whether or not I vote, whether or not I am politically engaged, whether or not I know anything about what is going on in the world.

    This whole trend has bugged me for decades.

    Namaste!

    •  Remember "greed is good" and "he who dies (5+ / 0-)

      with the most toys wins"?  That mentality took over in the 80's, and suckered a lot of young people into it. Some of them woke up to reality in time, some didn't.

      Some used their houses as ATM's because having the right "things" showed that you were successful. It didn't matter if you could really afford them, as long as you could show them off as necessary.

      You have to get over the color green; you have to quit associating beauty with gardens and lawns; you have to get used to an inhuman scale; you have to understand geological time- Wallace Stegner

      by blindyone on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 12:22:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Yes, and it's been getting worse ever since. (4+ / 0-)

        And not just the young, but everybody.

        And now the bubble has popped and the whole thing is sinking, but most people have no framework for comprehending it because they still think of themselves as Consumers first.

        Namaste!

        And PS thx for id-ing your Stegner quote.  I've read parts of that book.  

        •  Good point that it wasn't just seducing (4+ / 0-)

          one age group. I do think that what is going on during the time an individual "comes of age" is especially powerful, and hard to shake.

          There are people of all age levels chasing consumer goods as a way to find true happiness. You are right about that.

          You have to get over the color green; you have to quit associating beauty with gardens and lawns; you have to get used to an inhuman scale; you have to understand geological time- Wallace Stegner

          by blindyone on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 01:38:48 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Look too at the workplace, where personnel (2+ / 0-)

      became human resources.  Took the "person" right out, didn't it?

      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.--MLK, Jr.

      by conlakappa on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 12:46:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  And replaced it with "human" (0+ / 0-)

        Is there something that makes "person" better than "human"?

        If we called it "Personnel resources" would it somehow be better?

        Why and how?

        •  Tell me, do you often use species terms when (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          evergreen2

          referring to people?  Maybe you do.  Resources is the main word there.  Sounds rather commodified to me though, clearly, YMMV.

          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.--MLK, Jr.

          by conlakappa on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 06:57:23 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Human may not be the most common term (0+ / 0-)

            but it seems perfectly reasonable.

            Is any use of a slightly less common term when two different terms would do a capitalist conspiracy?

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site