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  •  In short: yes. (13+ / 0-)

    Given the parliamentary system, governments are not stable in Israel. Governments (such as Netanyahu's) must form a coalition of at least 60 (of 120) Knesset members.

    If, at any point, parties pull out of the coalition for any reason, and the number in the coalition goes below the magic number 60, the government falls and new elections are called.

    At this stage, nobody is threatening to leave the coalition. But it's a tense time in Israel.

    I'm "THE" Troubadour," and not "Troubadour" without the article. We're different people here at DK :)

    by David Harris Gershon on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 08:45:49 PM PDT

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    •  Is there anybody less crazy... (4+ / 0-)

      (or more crazy) who is positioned to take his place?

      •  Absolutely, though it's likely way too early (5+ / 0-)
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        to get into such speculation.

        Particularly given this: the massive movement overwhelming the country right now is not championing (for the most part) any current prominent leaders.

        I'm "THE" Troubadour," and not "Troubadour" without the article. We're different people here at DK :)

        by David Harris Gershon on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 08:53:11 PM PDT

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        •  No, but...any good ambitious leader.... (1+ / 0-)
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          will see these manifestations as a sign of weakness and try to capitalize on them.  

        •  But it seems (2+ / 0-)
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          that Bibi might have to restructure the coalition, do you think?  That is, if he intends to deal with the protesters.  At the very least, the question of continued financial support of the settlements may come up, since the economic issues started with housing...

          Just wondering out loud.

          When shit happens, you get fertilized.

          by ramara on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 09:21:51 PM PDT

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          •  I don't see any evidence for it (2+ / 0-)
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            So far the coalition partners are sticking with him. And unless one of them bolts, he stays in power for another 2 1/2 years.

            Fact: The decisions on housing in Israel are political. And the coalition partners like Israel Our Home, Jewish Home, Shas, and United Torah Judaism have been very good at getting housing for their constituents. They have no real incentive to leave. This is the result of Israel being more socialist than any country in Europe. The only real way to solve this problem for the long run is LESS government control over land.

            •  Another problem (2+ / 0-)
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              is that it doesn't just take a member of the coalition to bolt, it takes an affirmative 61 votes against the government on a specific question to call a new election. No Jewish party will vote in favor of a vote of no-confidence by an Arab party. No party from the Right will vote in favor of a vote of no-confidence from the Left, and vice versa.  

          •  Actually this may result in more construction (2+ / 0-)
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            in settlements. MK Katz of National Union spoke at a rally last week and said that the housing crisis can be solved through more construction over the Green Line. Expect to hear that from government ministers soon.

            •  I believe it goes a lot deeper than this (0+ / 0-)

              simplistic explanation of yours....

              try something like this.....

              http://www.truth-out.org/...

              Please do not tell me you are involved by being a member of DK4....really get involved...... http://october2011.org/frontpage.....The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

              by Mindmover on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:54:34 PM PDT

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              •  Obviously more settlements aren't going to solve (0+ / 0-)

                any problems, but he is right that we will hear this from the government.

                I refuse to represent my political beliefs using numbers. It isn't accurate, nor is it helpful. But I'm around a -10 on both scales.

                by AoT on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 08:32:35 AM PDT

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                •  I believe the people are finally (1+ / 0-)
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                  starting to realize that the problem is there own government, not the Palestinians or any other faction/group that has been castigated by the corrupt ruling class and there paid off politicians....

                  Please do not tell me you are involved by being a member of DK4....really get involved...... http://october2011.org/frontpage.....The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

                  by Mindmover on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 11:58:28 AM PDT

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                  •  I think that people around the world are starting (1+ / 0-)
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                    to realize that the governments we have to a real, just, better world, and that we need to stop supporting these corrupt governments that treat us and other like crap.

                    I refuse to represent my political beliefs using numbers. It isn't accurate, nor is it helpful. But I'm around a -10 on both scales.

                    by AoT on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 12:58:32 PM PDT

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                    •  and AMEN, nt (1+ / 0-)
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                      Please do not tell me you are involved by being a member of DK4....really get involved...... http://october2011.org/frontpage.....The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

                      by Mindmover on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 01:00:59 PM PDT

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              •  Israel isn't really Neoliberal (0+ / 0-)

                it is far too socialist, as I've explained in other comments.

                •  1st, I have never said Israel is neo-lib, (0+ / 0-)

                  2nd, they are more right wing fascist than they are socialist

                  3rd, your simplistic statement should be called out for what it is.....simplistic thinking.....

                  if you can be here, we are having a real party and it ain't gonna be with tea....

                  http://october2011.org/...

                  Please do not tell me you are involved by being a member of DK4....really get involved...... http://october2011.org/frontpage.....The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

                  by Mindmover on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 09:23:59 PM PDT

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                  •  Definitely NOT fascist (0+ / 0-)

                    talk about simplistic thinking. Or are you Jonah Goldberg who calls everything fascist.

                    The fact is, the Israeli government itself owns or controls almost all land in Israel. That alone puts it to the left of every elected official in the United States. It has an excellent universal health care system, on a model similar to  that of France. Did Mussolini or Franco every provide such?

                    And Israel lacks the bands of thugs that terrorize political opponents. Just look at the huge protests taking place. Mussolini would have sent his blackshirts to terrorize the protesters. Syria is much more like Fascist Italy today.

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