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  •  ooooooh, I wish i had someone's ear way you do (1+ / 0-)
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    great diary, i absolutely mean that!  i've tried being the upstart, running for 3 high offices.  congress twice. once as a republican, and last yr as the only democrat willing to take on a schmuck who broke his term limit promise yrs ago.  ran for governor of nj.  i was talking single payer all over the place.

    here's how a presidential candidate could break out.....if they had the guts.  follow the steps. and it ends with single payer.
    1) phase out cash. introduce a national debit card to collect one national sales tax
    2) eliminate all other taxes, but keep the income tax on the rich and RAISE the rate.  they pay most of the tax now anyway. the poor and middle class will get hurt by a regressive nat. sales tax.  it's a trade off, aka, compromise
    3) con't.  you've eliminated the corporate tax in #2 and and #1 means the flood gates of new taxes is now flowing into Washington.  No more underground economy.  

        Single Payer.  The money is there for Single Payer now, and the poor are paying for their health care by paying the sales tax.  the middle class for the first time, all have complete health coverage so they're ok paying the sales tax.  illegals are brought into the system because cash has been phased out.

        Corporations now have no tax to pay, and no health coverage to provide.  The regressive tax on the poor and middle class is acceptable because the business expands and unemployment goes down.
    4)  you can eliminate a bunch of cabinet depts because the private sector has no need for SPECIAL FAVORS anymore, they're paying no tax.
    5)  you can eliminate more functions of gov't because the poor and lower middle class have no red tape to getting health care.
    6)  you get rid of even more govt because SINGLE PAYER is 10 x as valuable as some other gov't service and it's yet ANOTHER TRADEOFF  to get Conservatives either on board, or make them look ridiculous for opposing.

    After you've eliminated the state sales tax, the states would get reimbursed, all the receipts are tracked, and once they streamline themselves and now need less money themselves, they're smaller and everyone has health care........perhaps the national sales tax would only have to be about 10%.  Remember, we're keeping the income tax on the rich and actually increasing the rate.  Would they stand in the way of beautiful idea that would revive the economy?

    So, that's the basic idea, right off the top of my head.  naturally it's more complicated, privacy is lost for one, gov't is tracking your every move, but what would my idea do to drug dealers say?  i'd give up the privacy in a second for economic growths sake, and for the good health care, which me and my wife buy, but sucks.

    and p.s.  change the civil service code so there's accountability for once when new these new bureaucrats take over and we have single payer.  conservatives?  would they stand in the way of that too?

    Don't tread on my free speech, m.b., and we'll knock off one lousy (R) Congressman. Capish?

    by guesswhoo2355 on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 06:17:34 AM PDT

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    •  Civil Service is now Federal Employee. . . (0+ / 0-)

      etc., etc.  has been for a very long time.

      *the blogger formerly known as shirlstars

      by Shirl In Idaho on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 08:12:11 AM PDT

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      •  not sure what you mean, shirl? (1+ / 0-)
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        and a shame there's no comments on my idea which i spent 5 minutes writing but could recite in my sleep by now.  was also hoping susie would take up the challenge

        Don't tread on my free speech, m.b., and we'll knock off one lousy (R) Congressman. Capish?

        by guesswhoo2355 on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 08:46:51 AM PDT

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        •  Sorry for not answering your earlier post... (1+ / 0-)
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          I tend to back off from overly specific recommendations.  The big picture is that in the 1970s, the top 1% of earners (those who today make $450,000 per year and up) had about 8% of the total income.  Today they have nearly 24%, with the top 0.1% having 11% of the total income.  This level of inequality has not been seen since the 1920s, before the Great Depression and the social safety net including Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the right to organize unions.  The last 30 years, since Ronald Reagan, has seen us lose so much of this, and this "Super Committee" has been put in place to create a crisis that will break the back of what has been unbreakable (Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid).  I am hoping that we can stop things right here.  You saw what happened in Wisconsin when they tried to take away collective bargaining from public sector employees.  There should be similar outrage nationally at the attempt to take away Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.  Hopefully, this will be the beginning of a return to a more equal income and wealth distribution.  I'm glad you've thought about exactly how that will be done - I'm sure there are many scenarios - the only thing that matters is whether it reduces the present untenable income and wealth inequality.

          "There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end they always fail. Always." -Gandhi

          by Grandma Susie on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 08:58:50 AM PDT

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          •  your facts, very good. STOP end of discussion. (0+ / 0-)

            that re-distribution of the wealth IS fact and should give moderate voters like me, and middle class republicans pause.......but it doesn't.  correction. it gives me concerns.  hoping you read my long thread, and hoping you noticed i said we should RAISE the income tax rates on highest per centage of earners while eliminating the income tax completely on rest and making it a non issue.  replace with national sales tax......i'll stop right there, it gets complicated lol

            Don't tread on my free speech, m.b., and we'll knock off one lousy (R) Congressman. Capish?

            by guesswhoo2355 on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 09:32:04 AM PDT

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    •  You call that easy? Wow. (0+ / 0-)
      •  Technically... (0+ / 0-)

        it would be easy to put everyone on Medicare.  Politically is another question.  Right now, it is politically impossible, but things can change very quickly and very dramatically, and our involvement is what can make it change.

        "There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end they always fail. Always." -Gandhi

        by Grandma Susie on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 12:52:39 PM PDT

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        •  I don't believe in very quickly and (1+ / 0-)
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          very dramatically. Involvement always helps, of course.

        •  Wouldn't that mean lobbying the Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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          on the committee or creating the public demand for this by an overwhelming majority of voters? It is not Senators like John Kerry, Patty Murray or even Max Baucus who are unalterably against this -- it is the Republicans who have argued that what we have is "socialism".  

          The strange thing is that people overwhelmingly support SS and Medicare - but don't connect those programs to the RW fear mongering with the word "socialism".

          Last week, I was with a British friend, a school teacher. She had used a series of political posters as part of a class. One set was the famous Obama "hope" one that the Republicans altered and added the word "socialism".  The problem her kids had was that to them "socialism" was either good or neutral - certainly not the "bad word" that the RW has tried to make it. (even in the days of Cameron)

          I suspect that if a Medicare for all were ever implemented, in a short time it would become as popular as SS and Medicare itself.

          •  It absolutely would be... (0+ / 0-)

            It would be popular even now.  This committee has just been formed and is figuring out what to do.  Input from us can make a huge difference.  The only reason I was able to talk for nearly an hour with John Kerry's Staff Director for Massachusetts was because I had a diary on the subject at the top of the rec list on Daily Kos.  But that should be the beginning, not the end, of our pressure.  We have to keep their discussions based in facts and reality - medicare for all would save money and reduce the deficit by lowering health care costs.  It would also save lives.

            "There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end they always fail. Always." -Gandhi

            by Grandma Susie on Thu Aug 18, 2011 at 03:50:13 AM PDT

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