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  •  I think that's exactly right (7+ / 0-)

    And expectations in some quarters that we would blow the right out of the water (because of how awful Scott Walker is) were really misplaced. They love Walker as much as we hate him, and he motivates them in equal measure.

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    by David Nir on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:27:31 AM PDT

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    •  Republican's ability to hold their nose and vote (1+ / 0-)
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      is greater than Democrats, me thinks! I do think most of it is fear, anger and ignorance driven, but I doubt the Fitzwalkers care about the long term consequences of getting the vote that way as long as they're able to move the ball further down toward their end zone, they feel they've won.  

      "Disappointment to a noble soul is what cold water is to burning metal; it strengthens, tempers, intensifies, but never destroys it." Eliza Tabor

      by churchlady on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:34:45 AM PDT

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      •  Heh (3+ / 0-)
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        I don't think they're holding their noses! Simac, for example, is truly one of them — at least, if you define "them" as "movement conservatives" (aka teabaggers). The problem for us in 2010 was that independents didn't seemed particularly turned off by these nutjobs. The problem for the GOP now is that (it seems) indies are starting to recoil. Let's hope that continues.

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        by David Nir on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:41:34 AM PDT

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        •  Then there's a LOT of them. (0+ / 0-)

          Kind of scary.

          "Disappointment to a noble soul is what cold water is to burning metal; it strengthens, tempers, intensifies, but never destroys it." Eliza Tabor

          by churchlady on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 09:14:26 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, there are a lot of them (2+ / 0-)
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            and always have been since 1854 when, after all, this was the state where the GOP was founded.

            That hasn't stopped Dems from winning many times since.  

            Remember, 2008 was a great aberration in Wisconsin in presidential elections.  In 2000 and 2004, it was the most purple state, with differences of less than half a percent between presidential candidates.

            "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

            by Cream City on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 09:55:17 AM PDT

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    •  Did you see the excellent turnout analysis (2+ / 0-)
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      in the Journal Sentinel on last week's elections?

      Yes, turnout was terrific (for summer elections, off-year elections, etc.), and especially so in the crucial 8th district -- but Republican turnout as much as Dem turnout.

      So it turns out that, contrary to the theories, turnout does not always work in Dems' favor.

      "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

      by Cream City on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 09:49:01 AM PDT

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