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  •  I have a theory as to why we turn over (6+ / 0-)

    leadership to men often and that comes from being born and raised in a patriarchal society; we are taught to turn things over to men even when we know damn well that we need to ensure a feminist perspective. Many of the problems in the left was the reproduction of oppressive relations in our societies with different jargon and rhetoric, but with little attempt to actually change those social norms and oppressive relationships; the future would bring change, meanwhile some things always stay the same. I agree with what you are saying completely.

    "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

    by NY brit expat on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 03:58:44 PM PDT

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    •  I agree with this (4+ / 0-)

      I've been reading in detail on the problems Mondragon has been experiencing and their analysis on how to fix it. It's quite eye-opening to me and focuses in on some of these concepts, which it well should. The correction will happen when education of cooperativism takes place. It's such a matriarchal function that it will take a generation or two, but I believe it will happen. I'll die with that hope.

      •  on the ingrained sense of male=leadership (3+ / 0-)
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        FindingMyVoice, arlene, Neon Mama

        I have a daughter.

        I owned a business. Her dad managed a business for someone else.

        I'm the "disciplinarian" in the household. Her dad doesn't have a commanding bone in his body and so it's left to me to assert some things rather than beg. (Example: I say, "Time to go to bed." and he says, "Why don't you go to bed now?" He has two children in their 20s and for 15 years I've been explaining to him that you have to assert not ask and he's never once done it.)

        Still, a couple of years ago, she revealed in a conversation that she perceived men as bosses, not women. When I pointed out to her that I was a boss and her dad wasn't, it sort of slid right past her consciousness. It didn't fit the cultural narrative so she couldn't take it in.

        More conversations have been had since then.....

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