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  •  nah, I don't eat meat (3+ / 0-)
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    •  make it with just the beans, or add (8+ / 0-)

      some textured protein. Chili is a great vegetarian dish.

      BTW, I don't mind you expressing your criticism of TT's diaries.  I'm willing to consider what you say -- but you keep repeating the same point over and over in this diary and have made the exact same point (also repeatedly) in other diaries.
      Over-statement of your point of view weakens your case considerably.  A polite (and it can be pointed) disagreement is far more effective.  
      Attacking in a pack is also pretty much a turn off.

      If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

      by Tamar on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 10:13:57 PM PDT

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      •  turn-off is in the eye of the beholder (4+ / 0-)

        You find my criticisms repetitive and banal.  Fine, you don't have to read them.  I find the predictable manipulation via hyperbole and retraction that this diarist engages in repetitive and banal, so I will continue to criticize.  

        I make a super spicy 3 bean vegetarian chili all the time.  I also make one that is more of a Cincinnati-style with fake meat.

        •  Your criticisms are fine (11+ / 0-)

          and to be expected.  This is a blog site after all.  But your use of the people in Syria to make your point is appalling, and beyond egregious to me.  

          I'd rather die than give you control ~ Trent Reznor

          by JustJennifer on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 10:21:32 PM PDT

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        •  would love the recipe. Then we have something (4+ / 0-)

          we can agree on and we can also agree to disagree about your methods of countering TT's diaries.
          You might want to read the diaries I published from my daughter's blogs while she was in Israel and the West Bank -- we're Jewish and by no stretch anti-Israeli.  However, we are very much against the Orthodox and right wing domination of Israeli governance and society.

          If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

          by Tamar on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 10:41:37 PM PDT

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          •  hey I'm right there with you (3+ / 0-)
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            we are very much against the Orthodox and right wing domination of Israeli governance and society.
             Man, as a secular, flaming liberal scientist, I couldn't agree more with this.  However, due to the presence of a large number of hardcore antisemites and deranged Israel haters, I don't view Daily Kos as a productive forum to engage in nuanced criticism of the Israeli government, to say the least.  I appreciate your daughter's stories, but I don't think they are having the effect you would intend them to here.  But that's just my 2 cents.

            Ok, on to less controversial topics, here's the recepie - all invented by me:
            2 16 oz cans each of kidney, black, and canallini beans, drained
            3 bell peppers (any color combination) chopped
            1 large onion, diced
            15 garlic cloves
            2 habanero peppers, diced
            3 jalapeno peppers, diced
            1/4 cup olive oil
            1 32 oz can diced tomatoes
            7 tablespoons chili powder
            1 Tbsp Italian seasoning
            2 bunches collard greens, torn to large pieces
            1 cup frozen corn

            Sautee the onion and hot peppers in the oil for several minutes and then add the garlic, crushed in a press.  Then add the bell peppers and sautee for several more minutes.  Add the beans, tomatoes, chili powder, collards, and corn, and italian seasoning.  Cook for ~45 minutes.

            •  Love the idea of collard greens in the chili. I've (4+ / 0-)

              been appreciating greens more and more.  Recently went a little wild eating baby kale. My older daughter has lots of vegetarian & vegan friends so this recipe will be perfect.  I assume cornbread is a good accompianment?
              I don't agree with your view of David's diaries, but my bet is that with the exception of I/P issues, we would be in agreement most of the time.

              If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

              by Tamar on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 11:31:41 PM PDT

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              •  we're probably in agreement on I/P issues too! (3+ / 0-)
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                I support a two state solution along the '67 lines.  You?

                I think the only thing we disagree on are the motivations of this diarist and other similar folks that post anti-Israel diaries here, and the utility of engaging them.

                In any case, I'm glad we've bonded over wholesome, vegetarian food.   Collard greens are amazing when cooked right - they have such a hearty flavor.

                Here's another recepie, this one for the Cincinnati-style chili.   It is not spicy like the last one:

                2 boxes soy / tvp ground beef crumbles
                1 30 oz can tomato sauce
                1 small can tomato paste
                1/2 cup water
                1 large onion, diced
                5 garlic cloves, crushed
                1/4 cup (or more) olive oil
                1 Tbsp ground cumin
                1/2 Tbsp ground corriander
                2 Tbsp ground cinnamon
                1 Tbsp ground cocoa powder
                generous dash nutmeg

                Sautee onions first, then garlic.  Add ground soy beef and sautee for ~6 minutes.  Add the tomato sauce, tomato paste, water, and ground spices, and cook for 30 minutes.

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