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  •  The ironic thing (0+ / 0-)

    about this comment is that GG does precisely that in his writings.

    The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

    by fladem on Wed Aug 17, 2011 at 06:45:07 AM PDT

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    •  That's not ironic (6+ / 0-)

      It's consistent to my point.

      Glenn's style is not conducive to persuasion in my opinion.

      Do you disagree?

      •  I think you and I have (0+ / 0-)

        had this discussion before.  There are some in blogsphere who are proud of being assholes, and aspire really to be Rush Limbaughs of the liberal left.  One, to pick a random example, used the phrase "weenie liberals".

        This completely misses who liberals are.  That kind of rhetoric simply isn't consistent with who most liberals are.  Liberals, after all, see themselves as children of the enlightment and believe in reasoned debate.

        The type of rhetoric that GG and others employ gets readers, but ironically ensures that their opinions are marginalized among the rank and file.  

        The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

        by fladem on Wed Aug 17, 2011 at 07:39:40 AM PDT

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        •  I'd add one thing (0+ / 0-)

          which is that while "being an asshole" doesn't help persuasion, sometimes you need to be an asshole to be heard, or, perhaps, to be heard over the other noise.

          Obviously, being an asshole is counter-productive to persuasion, but, as the audience, being an asshole alone shouldn't stop you from listening.

          Churchill wasn't the leader for peace time but he was the right guy during the war.

          There are many people who are situated to do great things. Most of them don't.

          by Inverted on Wed Aug 17, 2011 at 08:41:13 AM PDT

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