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  •  With Mitt Romney falling apart... (9+ / 0-)

    ...and with no chance of getting the nomination from the Republican party as it currently is, all-hair-but-no-meat Rick Perry would be a h--- of an embarrassment for both the GOP and America if he winds up the nominee. For example. can you imagine what would happen in Florida if he goes there and is pressed to explain his position that Medicare and Social Security are unconstitutional to seniors?

    The people united will never be defeated.

    by alaprst on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 02:21:24 PM PDT

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    •  Is Mitt Romney falling apart? (8+ / 0-)

      If past is prologue, the GOP usually rallies around the candidate that is either the heir apparant or the one viewed as most likely to win.  Romney still appears more likely to win than Perry.

      But who knows?  The inmates really do seem to have taken over the asylum, and maybe the oligarchs won't be able to bend the primary in the direction they want.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 02:25:10 PM PDT

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      •  Quibble (8+ / 0-)

        Perry is the hair apparent.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 02:26:18 PM PDT

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      •  That's the problem (3+ / 0-)
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        You have to get a majority of convention delegates to win the nomination. A large problem with the Mittster getting the GOP nomination lies in two things: 1. Resistance from the Christian right delegates to Romney's Mormonism (which many on the evangelical right consider to be akin to a cult) and 2. Romney's signature on the Massachusetts' health care law that the federal health care act that Democrats passed is patterned after. With the teabag inmates running the GOP asylum these days, the chances of Romney being the nominee are very, very dim.

        The people united will never be defeated.

        by alaprst on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 02:32:53 PM PDT

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        •  Irony is alive and well, I see... (1+ / 0-)
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          Resistance from the Christian right delegates to Romney's Mormonism (which many on the evangelical right consider to be akin to a cult)

          “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

          by ivorybill on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 03:03:35 PM PDT

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          •  Here's some more... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...about the philosophy of the evangelical right about Mormonism. This is not a view that just emerged when the Mittster started running for president. It's been part of evangelical right philosophy for years and has been captured in works such as the linked one by the late Walter Martin.

            The people united will never be defeated.

            by alaprst on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 03:48:08 PM PDT

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            •  Interesting (0+ / 0-)

              and I totally believe you.  I just think it is astoundingly ironic when people accuse Mormons of being a cult, when they themselves believe the most extraordinary things without the flimsiest shred of evidence.

              “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

              by ivorybill on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 04:13:22 PM PDT

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        •  Give up on the fantasy of Mitt being (1+ / 0-)
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          blocked by evangelicals:

          1).  Their hate for Obama overshadows all, and

          2). They know Romney has no core convictions whatsoever, beyond his ambition.  He'll be just as accomadating as GHW Bush (who went from Planned Parenthood Major Patron -- as in big-money spokesman and funder-- to "Pro-Life" in the blink-of-an-eye it took to get the VP nod).  Romney is not their dream date by any means, but in the end they'll fall in line.

          If Romney is blocked, it will be because the money brokers will have determined that he's less electable than someone else in he General.

    •  Perry in Florida would be worse than that (3+ / 0-)
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      He would confuse the Cuban population there with those evil "Mexican illegals".

      I'd love to see him give a speech in Dearborn, Michigan about his views on Islam.  

      "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov

      by sgtlejeune on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 02:25:46 PM PDT

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      •  Ummmm (1+ / 0-)
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        More likely the teabaggers would be displeased because he signed a version of the Dream Act in Texas. Obviously doesn't hate brown people enough.

        Just another day in Oceania.

        by drshatterhand on Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 02:41:39 PM PDT

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