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  •  Is the problem liberalism or Democrats? (1+ / 0-)
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    Hirodog

    Liberalism is an idea, Democrats are an institution.

    What we need a new radical left.  We need a movement of young people willing to put themselves on the line to stop the corporatocracy.

    I'm not convinced pure socialism is the solution, but I don't believe capitalism is either. What we need is a balance that lets capitalism work, where it works, while regulating it's excesses and supplementing it's failures with socialized services.  We need a hybrid economy that's the best of both worlds.  We need a political system that isn't rampant with corporate corruption and cronyism.

    I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

    by Futuristic Dreamer on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 10:43:18 AM PDT

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    •  Capitalism is like a cancer. (2+ / 0-)

      It does not co-exist well with healthy societal elements.  Everything and everyone is a commodity to be exploited for profit.  Public programs are either an expense to be done away with entirely if there's no profit angle to them, or something to be privatized, while maintaining the monopoly if there's profit or rents to be stripped.

      •  Greed is like cancer (0+ / 0-)

        The real problem isn't capitalism, but the human capacity for evil and greed.  There are some things capitalism does very well, like providing a variety of every type of good, and distributing luxury goods.  If capitalism is working as it should, hard work is rewarded with luxuries.

        My idea of ideal society in one in which the highest paid jobs are the latrine cleaner and garbage man, where even without working you will have enough to survive (food, shelter, and medical care), but no luxuries. Money would be used for everything beyond the most basic necessities. Those who put fulfilling their desire for material things above doing something meaningful would take the nastiest and most demanding jobs.

        I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

        by Futuristic Dreamer on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 12:22:41 PM PDT

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        •  Check out Parecon. (1+ / 0-)
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          My idea of ideal society in one in which the highest paid jobs are the latrine cleaner and garbage man

          This is Parecon's idea of pay equity.  Makes some sense to me.  Ultimately, it should be up to the workers managing an enterprise to determine pay, but a principle that rewards the riskiest or most difficult jobs (and bankster is not among the most difficult) is a good one.

          Not sure what you mean here:

          Those who put fulfilling their desire for material things above doing something meaningful would take the nastiest and most demanding jobs.

          You're going to dictate what jobs people do?

          •  People would chose jobs based on what they value (2+ / 0-)
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            happymisanthropy, goinsouth

            If your goal was money, and material things, you would naturally be interested in the highest paid job you could find; now such people go into stock brokering, and find other ways to screw people, which to the best of my understanding isn't a very fulfilling career, because that's how they make lots of money, but in my idea of an ideal world, the path to riches would be doing the worst jobs imaginable.  So the people who wanted to make money, and didn't give a crap how, who now go into stock brokering and finding ways to screw people, would go into latrine cleaning for the same reason, because that would be how you got rich.

            I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

            by Futuristic Dreamer on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 12:42:21 PM PDT

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