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  •  Kind of didn't get to the end of that section? (2+ / 0-)
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    Bush Bites, HeyMikey

    There's no cars being kicked off in the MCT line ~ which has dedicated BRT lanes.

    Now if the dedicated lanes get congested ... well then, yeah, sure. But then it would have dedicated streetcar lanes, dedicated BRT lanes, and dedicated cycle lanes, making it substantially different from a "bus barn"..

    Since streetcar and BRT riders are not as focused on the bottom of the income ladder as city bus riders, there's no way street level shops are running away from that many streetcar and BRT passengers getting off at the closest streetcar or BRT station.

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    by BruceMcF on Sun Aug 21, 2011 at 08:59:50 PM PDT

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    •  I thought you mentioned it as a possibility... (0+ / 0-)

      ...in one of your scenarios, but said it wasn't part of the plan at this point.

      Could be wrong.

      Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

      by Bush Bites on Sun Aug 21, 2011 at 09:10:20 PM PDT

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      •  I did, but not as a choice in a menu. (1+ / 0-)
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        As a reaction of what to do if the dedicated BRT and Streetcar transit lane hit capacity and there was an unmet passenger demand to expand further.

        The layout up there is Sidewalk, Parking, Cyclelane (I hate putting the cycle lane on the outside of the parking), Car lane, BRT Lane, then the mirror image going the other way.

        So the "turn the BRT lane into a combined BRT/streetcar lane" is a second step.

        Then the services on that corridor begin to press against capacity. So we are talking like thirty to forty vehicles running each way per hour.

        Well, then at that point, if there's a bottleneck stretch, yeah, kick the cars off that stretch. If you have over forty combined streetcars and BRT buses going each way each hour, aint no way that stores are running away from that potential business. That is a lot more well-heeled potential customers per hour than you might find in a days worth of regular city buses.

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        by BruceMcF on Sun Aug 21, 2011 at 09:33:20 PM PDT

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        •  I guess makes sense. (3+ / 0-)
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          The bus barn was vacant and scary a lot of time, which is why everybody was happy when they let cars back on state street.

          If you don't kick the cars off until you're guaranteed to  have the commuter traffic to keep businesses happy and sidewalks safe, it would probably be a different deal.

          Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

          by Bush Bites on Sun Aug 21, 2011 at 09:38:33 PM PDT

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          •  And then there was the less-well known... (0+ / 0-)

            ...transit mall about Halsted & 63rd Street, with its capcious auto traffic bypasses. The City is still working on fixing that big mistake!

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            by JeffW on Mon Aug 22, 2011 at 10:30:47 AM PDT

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