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  •  There is no "Madam Lavalle" in Parliament (2+ / 0-)
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    So I'm not sure who you are referring to

    Perhaps it is Nycole Turmel (who is the interim leader of the NDP and the former President of the national public employees union)?

    Or perhaps it was Hélène Laverdière, a former career foreign service officer who scored a huge upset win over the leader of the Bloc Quebecois in the last election.

    Until the election this spring, the Bloc had a member named Carole Lavallée who was a very good parliamentarian and frequently roasted the Harper government. She lost her seat in the NDP wave that swept through Quebec.

    The NDP caucus is full of talented smart men and women who will continue to stand up and fight for working people and social justice. Since so many of them are new and were just elected this spring, some of them aren't very well known yet to the public, but they will be. Some of them have great potential to lead the party, but today is too early to think about those politics.

    Once social change begins,it cannot be reversed. You cannot uneducate the person who has learned to read...You cannot oppress people who are not afraid anymore.

    by terjeanderson on Mon Aug 22, 2011 at 09:36:50 AM PDT

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    •  not sure... (3+ / 0-)

      I'm not absolutely sure, but I think eve might be thinking of Carole Lavallée, who was a Bloc Québécois MP from 2004 until the Orange Wave hit.

      •  I assume that the case (2+ / 0-)
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        Carole Lavallée was a quite progressive BQ member and pretty effective as the BQ's shadow labour critic.

        It is worth noting that Nycole Turmel - the current interim leader of the federal NDP - said that she took out her (somewhat controversial) previous membership in the Bloc Québécois specifically to support her friend Lavallée.

        Once social change begins,it cannot be reversed. You cannot uneducate the person who has learned to read...You cannot oppress people who are not afraid anymore.

        by terjeanderson on Mon Aug 22, 2011 at 05:14:55 PM PDT

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        •  BQ (3+ / 0-)

          Indeed. I find it terribly frustrating that so many people in this country are willing to dismiss every single thing that a BQ member says or does about any issue whatsoever, as though the sovereignty issue is such a complete dealbreaker that it invalidates the person's right to speak on any other issue whatsoever. (Stephen Harper even once pulled "the BQ are in favour of it" out of his backside as a reason to oppose same-sex marriage.)

          When, in reality, the Bloc had many MPs who were excellent, effective politicians and fine advocates for progressive causes: Mme Lavallée, Meili Faille, Réal Ménard, and -- don't hate me for saying this -- even Gilles Duceppe himself.

          In reality, we should have been able to disagree with them on sovereignty while still respecting their right to participate in the public debate, and working with them on the issues where our interests aligned. And that's precisely what I respected and admired most about Jack: while he was a passionate and fierce debater when it came to the issues, he never got personal about it -- he could, and quite regularly did, collaborate across party lines to get things done, and people of all political stripes respected his commitment and his dedication. Really, how many politicians can you honestly say that about anymore?

        •  yes, very progressive person (1+ / 0-)
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          I found this:http://en.wikipedia.org/...

          sad to learn she was defeated in 2011.

          •  The person who defeated her is also progressive (1+ / 0-)
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            Djaouida Sellah is a Algerian-born doctor. She has been very involved in humanitarian causes and has been a leader in the medical community. Having a left wing Islamic Arab woman in Parliament sends a pretty powerful message as well.

            In an alternative political world where separatism wasn't one of the political fault lines in Québec a progressive politician like Carole Lavallée would run for and be elected as part of the NDP. But the "national question" makes it harder for that to happen, although the May election broke down a lot of that with the progressive NDP near sweep of the province.

            My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world - Jack Layton

            by terjeanderson on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 04:12:35 PM PDT

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            •  Thanks for framing the political (1+ / 0-)
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              dynamic for me.
              And telling me about Dr. Sellah. She sounds like a good person
              I like the NDP a lot.
              Hope they beat the Conservatives and soon if possible. :)

              •  Won't be until 2015 (1+ / 0-)
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                Since the Conservatives hold a majority in Parliament, there won't be an election until then.

                My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world - Jack Layton

                by terjeanderson on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 08:19:50 PM PDT

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