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  •  Let's suppose for a moment (11+ / 0-)

    as Statusquomustgo says upthread and in unison we do sound off.

    What then, do you suppose would happen?

    Will the right wing talk of us any kinder than presently? We know they will not.

    What of their rhetoric then? More amplified perhaps and certainly they will make more outlandish statements of us and the President.

    I say that would be good.

    We are keenly aware how "over the top" their accusations can be and I for one would like to hear more crazy from them so as to alienate them further from mainstream America.

    Let's turn the tables and show the rest of America how out of touch they really are by announcing together their failed policies and vision.

    Let us always take the high road if we can, but by damn it's time we get loud and instruct our elected Democrats that they hold us in contempt regardless of our actions.

    Make that contempt worthy; stand up and punch the bullies in the nose.

    "The greater the ignorance, the greater the dogmatism." Sir William Osler

    by wxorknot on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 04:39:50 PM PDT

    •  A Dem Problem - The PHONY Diversity & the unity (10+ / 0-)

      & the po$itive meme$.

      I do politics in Seattle, I'm from the wrong side of the tracks in MA.

       I got NO problem that certain $ocial cla$$e$ are uncomfortable with my bluntness, and are put off with my complete disregard for euphemism and obfuscation, and they can muddle and huddle with other trying to define "positive" and "unity" and other happy happy things till the fucking sun burns out, for all I care -

      HOWEVER

      Why do they silence us who want to fight?

      If they don't want to fund us, if they don't want to stand in the same room with us - that is fine - just do NOT get in my way!

      And STOP with the weenie weasly bullshit about "unity" and being "positive" and being "collaborative".

      I'm 51, 39 years ago I spent the summer in the Berkshires campign with a bunch of the hippies of the day - combat vets, draft dodgers, trustafarians -

      MY whole entire life, the people pushing "unity" and "positive" and "collaboration" fall into 3 groups:

      - the complete Sesame Street political naifs who will NOT be happy until everyone agrees to their definition of "unity" and "positive" and "collaboration",

      - the most manipulative Machiavellian fucking slimeballs you find in ALL isms,

      - something else.

      The thugs got Rush & Beck & Palin

      and we got

      Kennedy School Of Government, College of Tome Peddling Excuse Making Highly Paid Fucking Losers.

      I will ONLY support "I welcome their hatred" Democrats -

      I'm done with Lessor Of Two Evil, and, STFU cuz if we ain't positive and unity and collaborative we'll lose.

      We ain't just losing, we're getting our asses kicked by these selfish lying bully fucks.

      rmm.

       

      Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

      by seabos84 on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 05:10:56 PM PDT

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      •  As the years have passed (8+ / 0-)

        I have been becoming less and less willing to negotiate with the right.

        I understand all to well what diplomacy with the right usually results in. Frankly, I am tired of it.

        There are elements of negotiating that can bring about the results we fight for; sometimes they are not immediate.
         I am ok with that, just so long as we don't negotiate away what we have won at a later date to attain something not yet spelled out.

        Look, we know what doesn't work. What's that saying about insanity and repeating what you do over and over, but expecting a different result. Well, we keep doing it, except it's about ready to make me insane.

        Stop with the games. Life ain't no game. It's real and I am tired being used as a game piece for the politicians and all their monied cohorts.

        rant off/

        "The greater the ignorance, the greater the dogmatism." Sir William Osler

        by wxorknot on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 05:43:23 PM PDT

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        •  Will you negotiate with the center? (2+ / 0-)
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          seabos84, i like bbq

          I will, but they have to be willing to negotiate with the left, too, and the belief that they won't do that when they call us to do it--that to unify means to fall in line behind them--looks like the crux of the issue to me.  (Not that I'm saying anything new--I just figured that under the circumstances I'd say it openly and directly.)

          The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early....Well, what are we waiting for? There's no deadline on a dream!

          by Panurge on Wed Aug 24, 2011 at 09:45:29 PM PDT

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      •  Let me also be perfectly blunt. (0+ / 0-)
        We ain't just losing, we're getting our asses kicked by these selfish lying bully fucks.

        You would be much better off directing your anger at "them", not "us".

        And.

        I WILL get in your way anytime I damn well please.

        •  then keep losing with your (3+ / 0-)

          kennedy school of noblerer gooderer betterer selflesser losers!

          it FEELS real good to be morally superior, doesn't it!

          I'm curious about your relation to money. It is MOST LIKELY

          - that money isn't important cuz you come from and live in 1 of those leafy professional managerial neighborhoods where people can AFFORD to be fucking sold out, or

          - you're aspiring to that social cla$$, or

          - you're so nobly ignorant amount money making the world go round that you don't even know what I'm talking about.

          keep clapping as the DLC Third Way Neo Lib crowd chucks coppers at your feet for you to scamper after, while they let wall street clean your wallet !

          how many doctor's bills and rent payments and food bills will I be able to pay with ... Hope! Hope ! Hope!! ...???

          rmm.

          Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

          by seabos84 on Thu Aug 25, 2011 at 06:56:18 AM PDT

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        •  Let me guess. (0+ / 0-)

          You're a Nice Polite White Universalist/Unitarian, aren't you? And people's display of anger makes you feel all icky inside?

      •  HEAR, HEAR. (1+ / 0-)
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        seabos84

        I'm not from "the bad side of the tracks," precisely, in MA, but I did grow up in a blue-collar family.

        The discomfort with blunt language and blunt tactics absolutely reflects class prejudice, IMHFO. If you rise to a certain level in society, you are expected to contain your emotions, period. I recall a Globe article by a woman raised in a WASP family who punished her for crying at a funeral, for christ's sake.

        The less bluntness is permitted, the more Orwellian language is allowed to creep in. As for "positivity," I am of the Barbara Ehrenreich school of thought: It is almost always invoked to shut off critical discussion, especially that which undermines the powers that be.

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