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  •  Manning was transferred ASAP after embarrassing (0+ / 0-)

    the military for allowing this to happen.

    Closing Gitmo ??? There's no one willing to take these prisoners. No one.

    Angry White Males + Crooks + Personality Disorder psychos + KKKwannabes + "Unborn Child" church folk =EQ= The Republicans

    by vets74 on Thu Aug 25, 2011 at 05:50:49 PM PDT

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    •  Manning was transferred (0+ / 0-)

      after such a significant time in horrendous conditions he's psychologically devastated (perhaps as a "warning" to anyone else who wants to stand up against military abuse and lawlessness).    It wasn't because the military felt badly about his treatment or recognized that it had crossed the line - it was to stop the stories about the legality of what had been done to him and the questions about it that they wanted to avoid.

      And the "nobody wants them" isn't a reason to keep Gitmo open.  Nobody stood up to the RW shillery about trials in US courts.  The Oh Noes Crowd won because rational people with faith in our judicial process folded like cheap suits and caved again.  

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Thu Aug 25, 2011 at 11:12:16 PM PDT

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      •  The Oh Noes Crowd had the votes in Congress. (0+ / 0-)

        And they used them. Or maybe you want Obama to break the law ???

        Angry White Males + Crooks + Personality Disorder psychos + KKKwannabes + "Unborn Child" church folk =EQ= The Republicans

        by vets74 on Fri Aug 26, 2011 at 04:38:20 AM PDT

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        •  How long do you think (0+ / 0-)

          people should be held in Guantanamo?  Nearly 10 years without a trial not enough?

          I'm not asking Obama to break the law.  I'm saying that Bush broke the law opening Guantanamo.  Continuing an illegal act, even for years, doesn't make it legal just like repeating a lie over and over doesn't turn it into the truth.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Fri Aug 26, 2011 at 11:04:11 AM PDT

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