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  •  Remember Pat Tillman was an athiest (25+ / 0-)

    I just went back to Wikipedia for this:

    Krakauer described Tillman as "agnostic, perhaps an atheist",[52] while later news reports state he was an atheist.[53][54][55][56] According to speakers at his funeral, he was very well-read, having read a number of religious texts including the Bible, Qur’an and Book of Mormon as well as transcendentalist authors such as Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry David Thoreau. However, responding to religious overtones at the funeral by Maria Shriver and John McCain, his youngest brother, Richard, asserted that "He's not with God, he's fucking dead. He's not religious." Richard added, "Thanks for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead."[57] Another article quotes Tillman as having told then-general manager of the Seattle Seahawks Bob Ferguson in December 2003, "You know I'm not religious."

    •  I miss Pat (6+ / 0-)

      That was an amazingly principled man. I wonder if his death was ordered because he was more moral, upstanding, and righteous as an atheist than a good portion of the christians in the ranks above him.

      •  Interesting perspective. (3+ / 0-)
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        Bad PR for the Christo-fascists.  Wouldn't surprise me.

        The way to combat noxious ideas is with other ideas. The way to combat falsehoods is with truth. - William O. Douglas

        by PSzymeczek on Fri Aug 26, 2011 at 02:31:12 PM PDT

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      •  Rumors are (4+ / 0-)
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        that he was becoming incredibly pissed off at the way things were being handled in Afghanistan, and the brass was worried that he was going to finish his enlistment, get out and become a big star in the anti-war movement. Don't know if it went so far as "ordering his death" (my tinfoil hat hasn't come back from the cleaners), but it was certainly convenient.

        Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes

        by Cali Scribe on Fri Aug 26, 2011 at 03:15:36 PM PDT

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        •  Let's stop this (3+ / 0-)
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          Friendly fire incidents happen every day in every army in the world.  It was a tragedy, a tragedy common in warfare.  That's all.  So stop with the conspiracy talk.  OK?  Thank you.

          "To know what is right and to do it are two different things." - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin "It was like that when I got here." - Homer Simpson

          by rbird on Fri Aug 26, 2011 at 03:36:47 PM PDT

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          •  It wouldn't be the 1st time, or even the millionth (1+ / 0-)
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            that someone was killed for not believing what someone else thought they should. It may even be more common than the friendly fire you say is so common. I'm not saying Tillman was -- I don't know -- but who are you to tell people to shut up about it?

            •  Because.... (0+ / 0-)

              Discussion of conspiracy theories without any proof are banned from Daily Kos, or at least they were when I joined.

              Here' the link:

                 Today I did something I've never done before (not even during the Fraudster mess), and wish I'd never had to do.

                  I made a mass banning of people perpetuating a series of bizarre, off-the-wall, unsupported and frankly embarrassing conspiracy theories.

                  I have a high tolerance level for material I deem appropriate for this site, but one thing I REFUSE to allow is bullshit conspiracy theories. You know the ones -- Bush and Blair conspired to bomb London in order to take the heat off their respective political problems. I can't imagine what fucking world these people live in, but it sure ain't the Reality Based Community.

                  So I banned these people, and those that have been recommending diaries like it. And I will continue to do so until the purge is complete, and make no mistake -- this is a purge.

                  This is a reality-based community. Those who wish to live outside it should find a new home. This isn't it.

              Now you know.

              "To know what is right and to do it are two different things." - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin "It was like that when I got here." - Homer Simpson

              by rbird on Mon Aug 29, 2011 at 03:24:27 PM PDT

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