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  •  They have a preponderance of parents (9+ / 0-)

    with free time, with college educations that make it easy for them to help them with home work, and the means to hire tutors.

    Of course it's a lot easier to teach at schools where parents do half the job of education kids.

    It would be shocking if it weren't.

    "I'm tired of hearing that it's "pragmatic" to support positions that most people oppose." RFK Lives

    by JesseCW on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 10:18:46 AM PDT

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    •  yup (2+ / 0-)

      Family conditions depend on a lot of variables--including youth experiences of the parents.  In the 1960s, we were honest and called for compensatory education--that is no longer pc.

      Apres Bush, le deluge.

      by melvynny on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 10:23:04 AM PDT

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      •  If companies were rated by client income (6+ / 0-)

        Then mass-produced auto firms like GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda etc would all be failing and the only "successful" firms would be Ferrari and the like.

        Rating schools by how wealthy the students are is just as stupid, and turning everything into multiple-choice tests assures that result.

        Thanks for the essay.  It says everything that needs to be said in a compelling way.

        A really great tagline appearing here soon! Watch this space!

        by madhaus on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 10:49:01 AM PDT

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        •  You bring up an interesting analogy (0+ / 0-)

          However I would say this is more like if you compared the auto industry ratings for the rate of car accidents.

          It has mostly to do with the driver. However cars produced with various failures can be at least partially to blame.

        •  good students are created before they are 3 (3+ / 0-)
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          A number to remember in early brain development: 700 synapses formed per second in children under 3

          Ratigan Segment on Brain Development

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          by ca democrat on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 11:59:31 AM PDT

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        •  Precisely (1+ / 0-)
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          Policy Matters Ohio published a study that showed an exact stair-step correlation between median family incomes and the ranking attained by a school district. The media family incomes in schools rated "Excellent With Distinction" were three times those of the schools rated "Academic Emergency."

          A blog here just published a list of Ohio's bottom 10 percent schools since our governor's new budget proposes to punish all the teachers by having them retake their certification tests. Of course, they are ALL in poor districts. They even include schools in juvenile correction facilities and schools for kids with behavioral and emotional problems. Seriously — you're going to blame the TEACHERS?

          Jennifer Brunner for Governor of Ohio 2014

          by anastasia p on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 01:49:46 PM PDT

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    •  Bigger issue is does the culture the child lives (0+ / 0-)

      in portray education as critically important to having high status and pride or something for nerds and social outcasts and doing well in school is "acting white."

      The children of recent east asian immigrants with lower incomes and who are not fluent in english, still impress upon their children the critical importance of education to their future and current status even though the parents can do little to help.  The do however provide the most important factor - encouragement to put the time and energy to meet high standard in school and expect all As for grades.

      Children who read quality material daily, and do their best in homework and studies and put the required time in to truly understand school material will overwhelming succeed - regardless of family income or race.  The bigger factor is do the parents and those around them encourage or discourage excellence in education in their children.

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 01:05:53 PM PDT

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      •  No, that's not the bigger issue. (0+ / 0-)

        I went to extremely disadvantaged schools.  More than a few of my classmates were Cambodian, Thai, or Laotian.  Some of them were drugged out gang-bangers and some were in the top of the class.

        Just like, well, the black kids and latino kids and white kids.

        Poverty means higher rates of drug abuse and alcoholism and broken families for everybody .

        "I'm tired of hearing that it's "pragmatic" to support positions that most people oppose." RFK Lives

        by JesseCW on Sun Aug 28, 2011 at 03:23:04 PM PDT

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