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    Webster Hodges, Russgirl

    But that doesn't mean he couldn't do it better.

    What I'm saying, at the risk of irritating Gore and Nye fans, is: don't engage with them when they want to twist things around and make it about Al Gore.

    Go back, again and again, to the science.

    •  Better advice (3+ / 0-)

      Boycott Fox until they change the way they do interviews.  FoxNews is beginning  to lose audience share as a result of their hiring of Glenn Beck.  Which is why they canned him.

      For Democrats and climate change activists, don't buy ads in any of Rupert Murdoch's extensive media outlets.  Don't sign book deals with a Murdoch-owned colophon.  Don't grant interviews or write opinions for the Wall Street Journal.  Just take NewsCorp completely out of your messaging strategies.  We should not be giving legitimacy to a sworn enemy.

      Gore has nothing to do with it.  Bill Nye should not have gone on FoxNews. Period.  And neither should any Democratic member of Congress.

      50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

      by TarheelDem on Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 06:26:02 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

        What made Bill Nye think going on FOX was a good idea to start with?  Hopefully he learned his lesson.

        Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

        by yet another liberal on Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 06:30:41 AM PDT

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      •  LOL. Boycott Fox! (0+ / 0-)

        Until what? Until they stop saying stupid things? We're talking about Fox! Why not boycott the Tea Party (until they choose sane policies), or the KKK (until they stop with all that racism).

        Don't tell me what you believe. And don't tell me what you do. I barely know you.

        by doc2 on Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 06:41:05 AM PDT

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      •  Good comment to share re this topic... (0+ / 0-)

        Re: Democracy Now's excellent interview Monday... this applies to climate change as well...

        ...Didn’t Wilkerson have any assistants. I got all my info from public sources.

        Why couldn’t he have tasked his assistant with combing the public sources for both sides of the story.

        He would have found the same stuff I read. Scott Ritter, who was very outspoken, was important in revealing the scam. There was a reporter for LATimes who revealed who Curveball (mobile bio labs, ridiculous on the surface) was early on (not sure if his articles were before or after the invasion, though).

        The State Dept’s OWN intelligence division thought the aluminum tubes were for missile sheaths, not nuke centrifuges.

        Then there was Joe Wilson’s oped on yellowcake, not to mention that the Italian intel bureau leaked memo on that subject as an abysmal forgery. Didn’t even use the right stationery.

        Occam’s razor also influenced my thinking: there were only 4 arguments the WMD side made, and each one was easily demolished upon inspection. If SH really had WMDs that were in any way dangerous to U.S., there would have been plenty more evidence & much more robust evidence.

        Long-winded way of pointing out that the normal human tendency is to believe what the “experts” & the govt tells us (and then do bias-confirmation reading if one is energetic), which is why such small groups can control so much so easily...

        An especially noticeable tendency among people who get to high places; they didn’t get there by NOT believing what their betters (or bosses) tell them.

        "Brown Nosers" we all run into at work - run our Country today!  Sad and sick, eh?

    •  I had the same exact thoughts on this (1+ / 0-)
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      Mass Southpaw

      They set a trap for Nye and he walked right into it.  They tossed out the Gore card (which is red meat for Fox viewers) and then got Nye talking about racism.  And then every damn lib news source proudly runs a headline about how Bill Nye "confuses Fox viewers about science"... when what actually happened is that Nye confused everyone by blathering on about Gore & the racial analogy.  Nye did a horrible job... and that's unfortunate.

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