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  •  well none of those things are accurate (0+ / 0-)

    about the people I mentioned, so your weeping generalization is false as well. I am not asking for nuance but truth and intellectual honesty. "ALL" anythings do not think just alike.

    peace

    •  Then why are they voting for "conservatives"? (2+ / 0-)
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      •  because (0+ / 0-)

        your descriptions are not accurate across all politicians and elections. Are ALL conservative politicians trying to privative SS? End medicare? Destroy public ed? No.

        But more to the topic, which you have managed to change, the quote was  incomplete and used out of context, which you seem incapable of admitting. That is really my only concern/point here. Honesty.

        •  That is really my only concern/point here. Honest? (0+ / 0-)

          Really? Then post your real name and occupation.

          •  no thanks (0+ / 0-)

            but my occupation is in higher ed and i prefer to keep my name, like most people in online forums, private. Again we are way off point aren't we? It is just that I see that quote ALL the time and it is usually, like your use, incomplete. i think it is worth being accurate and honest when using small things like that to make a bigger point. Perhaps you do not and that is your prerogative.

            •  Not really off point (2+ / 0-)
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              You are trying to create a distraction from the fact that Reagan lead a war against the American middle class.  You have tried every little technique you know to divert attention from the failed policies of conservative politicians.  When other see your "not to be picky but " comments in the future, they will know where you are coming from.  I have found your persistence and your avoidance of the real issue incredibly beneficial.  Thank you.

              •  just the opposite, I simply (1+ / 0-)
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                stated the full quote, then you jumped onto his view on states rights, racism, public institutions,  etc. Much of which I agree with.  I just stated the full quote and made a case for accuracy & honesty. Not sure why you can't deal with that. I'd do this with any quote by anyone taken out of context. But I see, you're a politician, so perhaps that explains it. Take care.

        •  Most conservative politicians are trying to (1+ / 0-)
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          privatize SS.  Almost all of them are trying to end Medicare.  Many of them are trying to destroy public ed.  More to the point, the conservative movement is trying to do all those things, and the conservative movement runs today's Republican party.  Your neighbors and relatives might not want those things, but that's what will happen if the Republicans have the chance to do it.  They've already shown that with the vote on the vote on the Ryan plan.  And just listen to Rick Perry's rhetoric, and he's the front runner for the Republican nomination.

          Of course, if he makes it to the general election, he's unlikely to run on that rhetoric.  After all, the Republicans running in 2010 didn't run on the Ryan plan.

          •  exactly (0+ / 0-)

            'After all, the Republicans running in 2010 didn't run on the Ryan plan."

            And I doubt they will in 2012 either. And if they do they will lose, and if their opponents tie them to it I suspect they will lose as well.

      •  Because people who are not into power (4+ / 0-)
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        do not realize that other people are.  Nor do they realize that power, to be felt, has to hurt and that therefore, the agenda of those who lust for power must be to deprive people of their human rights.

        Inoffensive people never think that not giving offense is the very characteristic for which they are attacked.

        The term "innocent victims" is a puzzlement, until one realizes that bullies, in addition to being insecure and incompetent, are cowards who attack people who are least likely to fight back.  It is the tactic of the terrorist and the kidnapper.  Since the injury to the victims is incidental and abuse, rather than death, is the objective, any resistance the victim might offer plays into the abuser's hands.  The victim ends up injuring him/herself.

        That's why the only proper response is an intervention by an outside agency.  Not an attack or a fight; an intervention.  Abusers have to be hauled up short.  Sometimes they have to be distracted so the victims can be gotten out of the way to safety.

        So, who are the abusers in this scenario and who are the victims?  The abusers are the traditional elites, trying to conserve their power and the victims are the American people who presume to govern.  Equality and self-government do not sit well with the traditional elite, in large part because, like their forebears, the plantation owners and the traders, they have few if any creative talents and have to rely on coercion to thrive. They are down on education, because they cannot learn.  What they rely on is exploitation, extraction, extortion, exportation and excuse. That's why I call them the x-men.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuzZQ8LTE2c

        by hannah on Thu Sep 01, 2011 at 05:35:45 AM PDT

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    •  BTW (1+ / 0-)
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      ozsea1

      Your comments do fit a pattern, "not to be picky but "

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