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  •  what makes him a populist, the pickup truck? (7+ / 0-)

    seems to me he has sided with the monied elites every time. whereas liz warren has been the fiercest advocate for middle class & working people for years.

    Who cares what banks may fail in Yonkers. Long as you've got a kiss that conquers.

    by rasbobbo on Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 03:49:02 PM PDT

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    •  In politics (5+ / 0-)

      its the perception, not the reality. That, and her type doesn't really play well in Massachusetts - some else on dkos called it the "statewide townie effect" - very few people outside of cambridge like being lectured by a Harvard professor.

      "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." -John Adams

      by rcnewton on Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 04:13:16 PM PDT

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      •  Nonsense. (1+ / 0-)
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        warren never comes across as a prof lecturing. And I really do not think MA voters are so stupid as to reflexively vote against someone affiliated with Harvard. She is NOT the Coakley type. She may be the first Dem woman to run for statewide office who does not come across as either an uptight schoolmarm or political hack, as the previous ones did--whom I nevertheless supported.

        •  Do you live in Massachusetts? (3+ / 0-)
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          Do you follow elections here? And by that I don't mean comments on a blog.

          I have. It's my business to know. I've worked in every state and local election since 1985.

          Stupidity has nothing to do with it. Massachusetts voters can't be classified by how Cambridge, the Back Bay, Provincetown or other steadfast bastions of liberalism behave and vote.

          Mass. voters are lunchbucket Dems. Many of them voted for Reagan. They feel overlooked and neglected by a group of elitist office seekers who they feel can't possibly understand what kind of struggles they face.

          Coakley wasn't seen as a Harvard type. She was seen as a careerist who was too good to shake hands with the hoi polloi.

          Brown owned the race with his phony-baloney pickup-truck barn-coated veneer of populism combined with his terrific political instincts and his attractive demeanor.

          Warren's challenge is to frame herself as not only a consumer advocate, but someone who understands the struggles that the average lower-middle class voter here experiences every day. If she can't destroy the "liberal elitist professor" label that she was facing from even before she ran, she is toast.

          You may not like that, but it happens to be true.

          "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

          by Sharoney on Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 06:46:48 PM PDT

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          •  I'm not referring to Coakley (0+ / 0-)

            I am referring to the way Warren will be framed by Scott Brown.

            And yes, I lived in Cambridge for 4 years in graduate school (98-02). I was politically active during my time there - and do follow politics there.

            "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." -John Adams

            by rcnewton on Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 09:36:39 PM PDT

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          •  That's the Massachusetts truth (1+ / 0-)
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            Like it or not.  Menino wasn't expressing support for Brown, merely telling the Washington insiders that they may be wrong and the Warren had better start getting out there if she wants a chance?

            She has not had one public appearance - it's all been house parties in the toney suburbs surrounding Boston - with no media invited.  Ever.  No way to run a political campaign.  The most recent poll says that 60% of Mass residents have never heard of her and that she has a 23% approval rating.  Yet she still does not campaign.

      •  i lived in boston for 13 years, '74-'87 (2+ / 0-)
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        for quite a while mike dukakis was the governor & you'd have to go a ways to find someone dweebier. a very good & effective governor he was, too. he didn't drive a pickup, rode the mta as i recall.
        elizabeth warren has never struck me as a lecturing elitist while scott brown strikes me as a class a phony. but what do i know, mitt romney struck/strikes me as a class a phony too & he got elected there.

        Who cares what banks may fail in Yonkers. Long as you've got a kiss that conquers.

        by rasbobbo on Fri Sep 02, 2011 at 07:26:53 PM PDT

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