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  •  I'm with ehrenfeuct games here . . . (1+ / 0-)
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    in that I also cannot see how it demeans the LGBT community.

    In any event, all of the arguments in favor of marriage equality have failed before, many of them more than just once or twice.  So I don't see how that's a particularly good reason to discard this one.  There may be other reasons for not wanting to advance it, but I don't think a record of failure is one of them.

    "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

    by FogCityJohn on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 10:58:53 AM PDT

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    •  The argument I support has failed many times (2+ / 0-)
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      But it has succeeded at least 5 times in state high courts.  And it succeeded with Vaughn Walker.  Number of times gender discrimination argument has prevailed:  ZERO.  

      •  Not so. (0+ / 0-)

        It succeeded in Hawai'i.  It was later overturned by constitutional amendment.  But you could say the same thing of your equal protection argument, which succeeded here in California and then was overturned by Prop. 8.

        "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

        by FogCityJohn on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 02:40:22 PM PDT

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      •  Sexual discrimination has the legs in this (0+ / 0-)

        argument. Compare heterosexuals, who have marriage rights, to homosexuals who have none, and the issue is crystal clear. This is sexual discrimination.

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