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  •  IKEA very quickly comes to mind (4+ / 0-)
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    " ... or a baby's arm holding an apple!"

    by Lavocat on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 07:35:24 PM PDT

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    •  exactly. Verizon too. (7+ / 0-)

      If the European unions were smart, they'd all be walking off their jobs too until their American counterparts get everything that workers have in Europe.

      But alas, they have the same attitude towards "foreign workers" that the US unions did back in the 80's---and the end result will be the same.

      •  The IWW had and has the right idea. International (4+ / 0-)

        brotherhood (siblinghood) of workers. I'm very fortunate in that the firm I work for has been very good to its workers in the past. And all I need is 8 more years of such good behavior to retire in a reasonable fashion.  But I'm still considering joining IWW simply because I approve of their message and goals.

        •  I've been a Wobbly for years, and (3+ / 0-)
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          served two terms as Co-Chair of its General Executive Board.


          •  Outstanding! Resist "divide & conquer." CO2 tax. (0+ / 0-)

            As long as we see jobs as zero-sum, "our workers vs. their workers," workers will never have enough clout to make a real difference. There will always be some workers somewhere willing to underbid the others and feed the "race to the bottom."

            We must keep in mind that workers in other countries are human beings just like we are. They deserve a fair chance of supporting their families. Us wanting to take their jobs, or prevent them from having access to affluent markets, is simply immoral.

            IMHO there should be tariff-free trade of goods that are:

            1. Made by people paid a living wage for their location.

            2. In reasonably safe conditions.

            3. With reasonably enviro-friendly processes.

            4. Who have the right to organize.

            If we insist on #4 then we will always have a tariff on Chinese goods until the dictatorship falls, because there will never be free Chinese unions till then.

            A greenhouse tax of some form (including cap-and-trade) would long-term generally discourage long-distance trade by adding to the expense of transportation. But more specifically it would favor goods manufactured close to their chief raw materials. E.g., cheaper to transport a finished 1.5-ton car than the umpteen tons of raw ore that went into its steel. I believe the USA is still relatively resource-rich, so that would favor US manufacturing.

            "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

            by HeyMikey on Mon Sep 05, 2011 at 02:35:24 PM PDT

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