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    The IDF has been more than large enough to prevent anything else for more than 30 years.

    And w/o the conflict,  it becomes a lot easier to deal with folks like the Iranians, since Israel isn't the only state in the region that would want a militant Iran contained.  The conflict no longer serves any Israel security interest beyond protecting Israelis from non-symmetrical warfare, if it ever did.

    Whatever advantage additional strategic depth Israel might get from holding on to the West Bank (much less Gaza) is thrown over by the fact the folks that live there want the Israelis out.  Whatever connection Israelis have to those areas, I'm agree with Rabin's old line -- if it requires a passport to see the Cave of the Patriarchs (in Hebron), that's not a bad price for peace.  And unless places like Hebron become part of a State of Palestine, peace is something we aren't going to get.

    How we get to such a settlement I don't know.  But the basic outlines of what might work we've known since the 1970s.  And as long as the conflict has dragged on, this hasn't changed.

    I share Troubadours's enthusiasm for the these demonstrations, since it shows a path to a healthier kind of politics in Israel.  The system's been completely deranged by the argument over security.  It's time that people start having a broader conversation, over the normal things people discuss in any other country.

    You can't govern if you can't tell the country where you are taking it. The plot of Obama's presidency has been harder to follow than "Inception." -- F. Rich

    by mbayrob on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 10:12:20 PM PDT

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