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    if you've got examples, send them to me. I'm EAGER to act to rid the site of anyone that even skirts the line into racism.

    •  Hmmm. (14+ / 0-)

      I'm heartened by the fact that you'd like to curb the racism here; but the thing is kos, racism is often in the eye of the beholder which is why it's so difficult to adjudicate these matters.

      Many African Americans here (and I am one of them) feel like the dogwhistling is deafening, but a lot of it wouldn't fall under any widely accepted definition of racism. For example, when those of us who support the administration are told we can only read picture diaries, that we are unable to think for ourselves, that we have no ability to reason and so forth. When you're black, you know exactly how loaded those "observations" are, because we've heard them our whole lives. But none of them use the word "nigger" or any other obvious racial slur, and when you try to push back, you're met with the "false accusation of racism" charge by those who feel it's their responsibility to police your behavior on behalf of those who don't "blindly cheerlead" the administration.

      So my question to you is, how does one fairly call that kind of dogwhistling out?  I guess it's fair to say things like "your language is offensive for the following reasons"?  MB's standard, and I think it was a good one, allowed for people to critique language but not the person directly unless there was a well established pattern of behavior.  Is that still the standard?

      MB basically demanded that any accusation of racism be accompanied by a substantive body of credible evidence. I think everyone will agree that that's a reasonable standard. I also think that standard should be applied to those who claim others are leveling false charges of racism. After all, if you're essentially calling someone a liar, you should have to prove it.

      Having said all that, I understand why you've taken some of the actions you have. The place was becoming toxic and was in need of a housecleaning. I just think it'd be helpful going forward to have some clear guideposts.  That way, when you ask us to send you examples we know what to bother you with.

      No need to squabble girls. There's plenty of me to go around. - Pam from True Blood

      by fou on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 08:36:36 AM PDT

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