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  •  Here's my strategy dealing with sociopaths: (14+ / 0-)

    I'd like to believe that I'm a fair-minded person; that my intentions are good; that I don't like to offend people, or take advantage of them.  Yes, to me, it is important to be a "good citizen."

    Now, having said that, I can be the biggest SOB, Machiavellian-type if I have to (I'd like to think).

    So, here's what I do... When I interact with people, I give them time to show who they are.  I do not pre-judge people.  If someone says something stupid one time, I give them the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe they were trying to be funny, or don't know better.

    In the work environment, or business, I "give them a lot of rope" and let them show themselves.

    I've developed a years-long process that helps me determine two things: This person is good (normal, honest); or this person is evil (sociopath, manipulative, exploitative).

    Once I determine the latter, then I put them on a "program" of total destruction... So then I enter into the chase game  program.

    These sociopaths go around creating havoc, and are really good at hiding their tracks.

    So what I do is, like a sleuth, I keep track of their actions, lies, manipulation, havoc, and then come up with process to expose them at the right time, trying to do the most damage.  At that point my intention is total destruction, and annihilation without compassion.

    But you have to become (at least temporarily) as good as a sociopath as they are in order to be effective on this.

    You have to truly understand the heart of evil, and you can't have any sympathy or compassion.

    Once you know that a person is evil, your duty is to completely destroy them--utterly.

    Of course, I'm not talking about any kind of violent stuff here... Physical violence is often for brutes.

    Intellectual violence or power-plays can be much more impactftul.

    •  Yep--good plan. (5+ / 0-)

      Unfortunately, I was too caught up in getting regular things done and working many extra hours to do so [I was a grant accountant for ARRA funds--we were completely overwhelmed with the volume] and by the time I realized what I was up against, it was too late.

      However, I have submitted a complaint to the HUD OIG [ARRA fund legislation has additional protections for employees involved with the ARRA funds]--so we'll see where that goes.

      That said, I don't think anything would have helped in that job because the higher ups and the executive director were also just as bad.

      But in the future, definitely useful advice.  Discerning evil will come much more quickly for me.

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      by dfarrah on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 12:22:18 PM PDT

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    •  I wonder if you discriminate (3+ / 0-)
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      between sociopathy and other narcissistic conditions which are high on the continuum and have a large anti-social component. For instance, malignant narcissists and are often mistaken for sociopaths, but have rather interesting differences. To my mind, any combination of narcissism and/or egocentrism with an antisocial component is trouble.

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      by SoCalHobbit on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 02:29:48 PM PDT

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    •  it's still violence. (0+ / 0-)

      even if it isn't physical violence.

      that makes it difficult to deal with these types of people since most of us deplore violence done in any manner... physical, economic, emotional, etc.

      we can't get around that. perhaps what we can do is not enjoy reacting with violence to stop their violence.

      especially when we find ourselves to be good at it.

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      by zedaker on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 03:08:55 PM PDT

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      •  it's justifiable self-defense against a.... (2+ / 0-)
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        ..... remorseless adversary.

        If you think you can persuade sociopaths to be nice, you don't know anything about sociopaths.  There is no persuading, there is no "nice," and they will only think you a weakling and proceed to crush you.

        The way to deal with these people is to outsmart them and then destroy them, or best of all (and requiring the most skill), arrange for their own bad behaviors to lead to their own destruction.  

        It's not "nice," but you have to recognize that you are dealing with people who are vicious predators wrapped up in phony charm.  Their way of operating is offensive to our basic sense of humanity and civilized conduct, but that is how they are: so your choices are either to avoid them altogether, or if you are in an organization with one in your chain of command, either escape from there ASAP, or destroy them or be destroyed by them.  

        Having empathy for predators is how you become their lunch.  

    •  Amen to that!, and it's not sociopathic, it's just (2+ / 0-)
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      ..... warrior mode.  The goal of war is to destroy and defeat the enemy's capacity and will to fight.  Successful warfare requires holding those goals uppermost in mind, and applying them with skill and without reservation or hesitation.

      Once you've identified the target, the goal is to take out the target efficiently and expeditiously.  

      Setting up the conditions whereby a sociopath destroys themselves requires high skill as well as an understanding of the person's motivations and behavior.  

      So I wonder about this:

      Can you train people at what you do and how you do it?  

      Imagine if thousands of people were properly trained to identify sociopaths at work and cause them to self-destruct.  

      This would quickly lead to a thinning of the ranks of the sociopaths.  If you take out hundreds of thousands of low-level and mid-level sociopaths, you deny the high-level sociopaths their effective minions, so the high-level sociopaths lose power and may also fall under their own weight.  

      You might have just stumbled onto something that could potentially cure our culture, at least in part, of its affliction with sociopaths.  But as with antibiotics, the medication has to be taken long enough that the infection is reduced to the level where the body's normal defenses can kill it off the rest of the way.   Otherwise there is risk of a resistant strain.

      So if you take this on, be prepared to make it a major project for the rest of your life.  However few things would be quite as worthwhile in terms of the benefits they have.

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