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  •  As far as I know (9+ / 0-)

    the two terms relate to the same condition, which is no longer in the DSM by either name. The condition still exists, but it would be diagnosed as anti-social with certain features. As to which vernacular is more correct, I looked to the etymology and found sociopathy (social+broken) to be less poorly descriptive than psychopathy (brain+broken) and in fact a form of the latter (psychopathology) is used to refer to mental disorders generally.

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    by SoCalHobbit on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 02:04:29 PM PDT

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    •  in DSM III, when I was in grad school.... (3+ / 0-)
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      .... the term was Adult Antisocial Personality Disorder.

      That was for sociopaths.

      Psychopaths were not defined psychiatrically; the term is primarily used in law enforcement to refer to sadistic criminals who take pleasure in causing harm to others.

      That is, a garden-variety robber just wants to rob you and take your money and run.  A psychopath gets visceral pleasure making you beg and plead for your life, and may get even more pleasure out of harming or killing you.  

      IMHO both terms should be used in psychiatry.  

      Question is, what does the latest edition of DSM call the condition they formerly called antisocial personality disorder?

      •  I think it's the same (1+ / 0-)
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        I think I remember taking a peek and it was still the same... my memory kinda bites though.

        Nice comment G2... thanks  :)

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        by SoCalHobbit on Sun Sep 11, 2011 at 12:37:20 AM PDT

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      •  A friend (1+ / 0-)
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        sent me a link to the DSM V page about a year and a half ago. That's when I took a peek.

        I just checked teh wiki which had this to say:

        The DSM-V working party is recommending a revision of Antisocial Personality Disorder to include "Antisocial/Psychopathic Type", with the diagnostic criteria having a greater emphasis on character than on behavior.

        So there's that...

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        by SoCalHobbit on Sun Sep 11, 2011 at 01:39:31 AM PDT

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      •  I'm reading... (1+ / 0-)
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        Apparently psychopathy was a diag in DSM II, and was renamed Antisocial Personality Disorder in DSM III.

        I recall reading that there was a debate over the name:  psychopathy or sociopathy, so I used the etymology to pick the one I thought most suitable. Leave it to the APA to forgo such considerations.

        It looks like they're using both names, as subsets of anti-social, with psychopathy having a larger anti-social component... I'm actually only familiar with sociopathy.

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        by SoCalHobbit on Sun Sep 11, 2011 at 02:14:27 AM PDT

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