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  •  The surest sign (17+ / 0-)

    that someone's never seen the congregation of  a megachurch is the assumption that the Christian Right is predominantly elderly.

    Not at all.  They're the generation of the "seg academies", grown up and with kids of their own.  A parking lot filled with late model SUVs as far as the eye can see, a whole bunch of them with child seats.  That's the Christian Right.  And here's the bad news:  their kids are going to their seg academies too now, but they're bigger, more influential, better politically connected than ever before.  And so will be the well-indoctrinated kids currently attending.

    Fight the Shock Doctrine--abolish the "debt ceiling"!

    by ActivistGuy on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 09:25:50 PM PDT

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    •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
      predominantly

      Where did this come from?

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 09:50:26 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, exactly. (3+ / 1-)
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      Much use can be made of these observations.

      And much use can be made of good technique.  Drive through one of those parking lots with a concealed camera setup on your vehicle to record the license plates on both sides as you go.  

      Translating those license plate numbers into the registered addresses of the vehicles takes a bit more work but isn't impossible.

      Translating those addresses into something usable for campaign purposes (including gray ops) is easy.  Now think of clever ways (OK, call them dirty tricks if you must) to encourage those people to miss the election or vote for your candidate rather than the badguys' candidate.  

      Any tactic their side has used on our side is more than fair game.  Then escalate by two notches on the scale, or better yet four.  No violence, no serious lawbreaking (noise and litter are OK), everything else is OK as long as it stands a chance of working.

      •  HR (0+ / 0-)

        for advocating illegal behavior voter suppression. this is exactly the sort of thing that ends up on oreilly's show to show how "hateful" this site is.

        •  what is illegal? (0+ / 0-)

          Ds see human suffering and wonder what they can do to relieve it. Rs see human suffering and wonder how they can profit from it.

          by JTinDC on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 09:28:29 AM PDT

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        •  paragon of purity? (0+ / 0-)

          Bring knives to gunfights?  Or better yet bring umbrellas?

          Puh-fucking-leeze.

          I suppose if you had to choose between gray ops and losing an election, you'd happily lose the election and smile at the consequences.  

          And I did say "no serious lawbreaking (noise and litter are OK)."

          What part of "noise and litter" are you objecting to?

          Get real.  

          Your shit sandwich with a side order of flies is ready!  Bon appetit!

      •  Recc'd to offset HR (3+ / 0-)
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        I don't see a problem with this comment.

        •  Oh oh oh! But the noise! And the litter! (0+ / 0-)

          Good Democrats should never litter!

          And never make noise!

          Just keep playing it meek & mild until God has mercy for us and steps in to help!

          Besides, losing is fun too, we get to have a cry-fest and a pity party!   What's wrong with you, don't you enjoy pity parties?

      •  Of course, if Romney gets the nomination, and I (1+ / 0-)
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        hope he does, then this discussion, presidentially speaking, will be moot. These folks will never, in lege numbers, get behind a Mormon. The establishment will try hard to counter that, but it won't work.

        The GOP looks at faith as a strategic tool, but to the vast majority of believers, their faith is real and a vote for a Mormon is a vote for a false prophet if not a vote for the anti-christ.

        Ds see human suffering and wonder what they can do to relieve it. Rs see human suffering and wonder how they can profit from it.

        by JTinDC on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 09:33:10 AM PDT

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        •  and in 1976 I thought Reagan would be too old.... (1+ / 0-)
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          .... to be taken seriously as a candidate in 1980.   In 1980 I thought the biggest threat was Bush Senior.  

          Never underestimate the enemy.

          Believe you me, if Mittens is the candidate, the establishment will find a way to sell him.  

          And if Perry is the candidate, we'all darn well ought to get our passports in order, just in case.  Too bad the Netherlands is going to get hit hard by sea level rise, it's such a sane country from what I hear, and most people there speak English.  

    •  the silver lining is that ideology isn't heritable (4+ / 0-)
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      there are a whole lot of leftists, liberals, and democrats who were raised with rather different ideologies than what motivates them politically as adults.

      don;t write off those kids just yet. the contradictions and repressions of their parents' ideology will wear uncomfortably on more than a few. we just need to be willing to engage them as if they can be convinced, as they grow up.

    •  What are "seg academies"? nt (0+ / 0-)

      May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

      by msmacgyver on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 04:51:33 AM PDT

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